The Sporting News Provides An Interesting Twist In Their Mock Draft
by Anthony Cosenza on Feb 10, 2012 12:00 PM EST
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Russ Lande of The Sporting News is known as one of the preeminent NFL draft experts. He was a former NFL scout and has been a draft analyst for the publication for quite some time now. Lande is one of the guys that we at Cincy Jungle keep an eye on when he releases his mock drafts.
Though it's still early in the process, Lande provides an interesting twist on the first round and the Bengals selections in his latest mock draft. Though he has the Bengals addressing two major position needs with their two picks, this one is sure to raise some eyebrows.
At No. 17, the experts are seeming to agree that the Bengals will take a chance on the embattled cornerback out of North Alabama, Janoris Jenkins:
17. Cincinnati Bengals (From Oakland), Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama. The Bengals lost Johnathan Joseph to Houston as a free agent last offseason, and Leon Hall is coming off a season-ending Achilles’ injury. So the Bengals gamble and take Jenkins, who has first-round talent but also some off-field concerns.
It's almost a dead lock that the Bengals will use one of their first round picks on a cornerback. Selecting one makes a lot of sense given the state of the group right now. Jenkins is likely a "boom or bust" prospect, and the Bengals may feel that they have the luxury to take a gamble with an extra first round pick this year.
Lande's take on the Bengals selection at No. 21 is very interesting. He has them taking a much-needed running back, though it's not one that many Bengals fans may not have in mind at that spot:
21. Cincinnati Bengals: David Wilson*, RB, Virginia Tech. It’s unlikely the Bengals will re-sign Cedric Benson, and they need to find a back who can help improve their 19th-ranked rushing game.
Wilson is another "boom or bust" prospect. He is coming into the draft early after his impressive junior season, but fumbles and a "one year wonder" status have many people wondering where exactly he falls in this year's running back picture.The consensus top running back prospect, Alabama's Trent Richarson, is mocked to go to the Jets at the pick in front of the Bengals at No. 16. In Lande's mock draft, Wilson is the second running back to come off of the board after Richardson.
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I second that.....
especially taking Wilson at #21 with DeCastro still on the board.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Feb 10, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
+1
"He stood in there like an old riverboat gambler and gunned that ball right on the money"
by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
why do they still have mocks out where trent richardson falls out of the top 10?
i know anything is possible and i hope he falls to us, but no way does richardson even comes close to us like that and if trent is a few picks away, we will trade up to get him for sure. I can easily see the Jets taking Richardson before we can. LT is on the way out and who better to replace him with than Richardson or Martin in the second round.
AMAS
are you talking about Greene?
who is their back up, LT, who gets a good amount of touches. Why wouldn’t you want to upgrade a skilled position when LT is about to retire?
Martin in the mid 2nd round would be a great value pick for the Jets. And Martin can return kicks too, so it actually makes for the jets to get martin. I can easily seeing it happening.
AMAS
Greene is the backup?
He started 15 games, had 253 carries and averaged 4.2 yards per. We should all be so lucky to have a backup like that.
my bad, i think i wrote that out wrong.
I was asking if you were implying Green as the young starter, but in facious way.
And then i was asking who their back is, which is LT of course, and I was implying that Martin or richardson who have similar skill sets would be good options in the second or first round to replace LT, even tho they have set starting RB.
But richardson would be an upgrade from Greene and Martin could be as well but either way the jets would have a dynomite 1 and 2 attack on the ground. if they selected either of the two backs in the first or second round.
AMAS
If they're looking for a replacement for LT
I think they’d probably look for a back along the lines of LaMichael James or Isaiah Pead.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
i can see that as well
i really think Martin goes late first or early second round. And obviously, TR goes in the first.
I think they would have martin rated higher than pead or james, incase he falls that far in the second. But i would love for the bengals to draft pead in the second or possibly the 3rd if he drops that far.
AMAS
You really think they'd draft a replacement for their backup RB in the first round?
With the holes they have to fill?
WR wasn't our biggest need last year
but we took one anyways in the top 10, because AJ had far superior talent than any left on the board.
AMAS
Last year it was more of who was going to throw.
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
It was both
TO and Chad were gone… Simpson and Caldwell were the options at WR besides Shipley before he got hurt
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
But anyways, ignoring need, Green was the BPA at the time.
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
true
he was also a HUGE need. Unless you were blind enough to assume Jerome Simpson was a real NFL starting WR.
May have still had him at the time
but most likely knew we weren’t keeping him
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
possibly, i remember there were rumors that we may even cut him
but the pats bailed us out of that commitment lol
AMAS
Whether it was a cut or a trade
he was gone
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
i remember hearing that, but i didn't believe it with how stuburn Brown is
I think the pats really bailed us out with him.
AMAS
we had simpson who showed promise and im pretty sure chad was traded after the draft, could be wrong tho
but yea, would haved said QB or possibly CB was our biggest need in last years draft.
AMAS
Joseph left after the draft if I remember right.
There was talk that if we drafted a CB in the first it might just make Joseph decide to leave.
yea your right, they did have the draft before the lock out and before joseph had left
but still he was a FA and there was a chance he would have been gone. I was hoping we took Peterson last year, because even if we did sign Joseph back, Peterson could have played the SS.
But im very glad we picked AJ.
AMAS
CJ Spiller by Buffalo in 2010.......
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Feb 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
*9th overall
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Feb 10, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Then why do so many analysts have him falling?
Anything is possible and if you don’t look at all possibilities it’s going to bite you in the ass.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
because they are analyst and thats why there not a coach or gm
its really a no brainier if richardson falls to us, we pick him. There really isn’t much assessments needed to be made. So yea, we can all live in fantasy land and think he is going to fall us, but in reality, we are going to either have to trade up or go ahead and pick our corners for the future.
AMAS
Uhh we aren't coaches or GMs either
but yet “He won’t fall”
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
im calling them out for not thinking logically
just because you may have a reliable starter at RB position, you don’t pass up an upgrade at a skilled position when the RB is a top 5 talent. Why wouldn’t the rams pick the RB of the future, why wouldn’t tampa want a change of pace back in richardson, why wouldn’t the seahawks pick richardson if they don’t resign lynch, why wouldn’t shanahan pick richardson if he can’t get RG3, why wouldn’t the browns pick richardson if they can’t RG3… there are so many teams that will be looking at him in the top ten and bunch of other teams looking to trade into the top 10 to get him.
“Uhh we aren’t coaches or GMs either. but yet "He won’t fall" "
lol i know im not and i wasn’t trying to say i could be or anything like that. but its just pipe dreams if really think richardson will fall. And someone wont trade up to take him from us.
We will have to trade up to get him, simple as that.
AMAS
If he does not go to Tampa Bay
I could easily see him falling out of the top 10. IMo RB is not a position that will is valued enough over all for any team to trade up into the top 10 to acquire
your looking at the position as a whole and not the player.
would you let emmit smith or ray rice fall out of the top 10 if you had a chance to draft him?
AMAS
But we do not know if he's Emmit Smith or Ray Rice
Right now he’s still only a prospect (although a very good one. Reggie Bush was suppose to be the next Gale Sayers and he is just now starting to play pretty well. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s going to be good but at this point he’s still just a prospect and the RB position has really been devalued, even in the last two years
they are all prospects buddy, but richardson is by far one of the most polished at his position
lol i really cant believe im having this conversation. Joe G when you need him!!!!
AMAS
Richardson doesn't have 1/100th the hype Reggie Bush had
I don’t think a team that doesn’t have a dire need for a RB is going to give a second glance to Richardson. There are just too many other positions that are more important in today’s NFL. In the last few years passing has become the default offense. Running is practically antiquated. Look at the teams that dominated this year. Patriots, Packers, Saints, Giants, all pass happy teams. That’s what the rules favor.
Umm what?
Emmit Smith was drafted 17th overall (that’s our first pick btw) and Ray Rice was 55th overall. So, yes, when those guys were drafted EVERY team let them fall out of the top 10.
lol your not getting what im saying
if you know some has the ability like Smith or Rice. Knowing what they have done in their career, would you let someone like them drop past the top 10?
AMAS
No I got that.
MY point is that teams DID let them fall that far because they were just prospects. Richardson is also just a prospect. No one KNOWS that hes going to be Ray Rice or Emmit Smith. I get what you’re saying, and I DO want Richardson, but saying that there is no chance he falls out of the top 10 is kind of silly. Anything can happen, including him falling to us at 17. Am I going to hold my breath for it? No.. but that doesn’t mean it’s not possible.
i never said it was imposible either, in fact i did say there was a very small chance it could
If we hold steady at 17, we wont get him because some one will trade up and take him or the jets might take him themselves. If he falls out of the top ten, im going to call pickes 11-15 to see if they would like to make a trade.
anything could happen, I agree on that but its just wishful thinking that he falls to our laps. I just don’t its going to happen.
AMAS
But you're answer to me on why the analysts are mocking him as falling
applies to why you are also wrong.
Barring the door on something long before the door is opened is a recipe for disaster. I don’t think it’s that unlikely that he falls.
Honestly, the ones that I have noticed saying TRich WILL NOT fall, are the ones hoping we take Pead early.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Man I hope that's wrong
I don’t want David Wilson in the 7th, much less the first. He is Ced all over again.
Fumbles? They just happen. Nothing I can do about it.
2.8ypc? Well I didn’t get 30 carries, so it’s the coaches’ fault
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT
side note
Why would the Jets draft a RB? They have needs, and replacing a good young player in Shonn Greene is absolutely not one of them.
I can see it
2 back systems are coveted now and LT may be hanging it up or moving it out. Greene hasn’t lived up to what they wanted him to be and with a unreliable, sporadic QB they need a better run game. I can see them taking him and playing them both then let the lesser of the 2 walk after their first contract. Some say KC could be his landing spot but I can’t see that. Who knows? I want him in stripes though. It would almost make MB invest in the O line if we got him.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 10, 2012 1:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
plus LT would probably still get the majority of the touches if his skill werent declining
i think they prefer that type of back than greene, but wouldn’t want to have a two headed monster. Best value in the second for the Jets if they want to go that route.
AMAS
LT would get the majority of touches over nearly anyone in NFL history if his skills hadn't declined
Doesn’t change the fact that he isn’t who he used to be. Greene had over 250 carries, LT has 75. Why do you guys think Tomlinson is the starter?
read my response from above
i don’t think he is the starter, this point I was trying to make, suggest that the Jets lean towards Tomlinsons skill set than Greenes.
AMAS
Any chance we could sign LT on the cheap?
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
possibly, but why?
We need RBs, no question, but LT is done. He’s barely a shadow of who he used to be.
LT is done as far as playing for a starting role, but as a 2nd back/pass catching back he's still good enough.
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
He seems to have a Benson-like personality, as well.
I’d rather take a chance on Martin.
by Big Sky Bengal on Feb 10, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
are those direct quotes, or are you paraphrasing?
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 10, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
not exact quotes
but that’s the gist. We’ve talked about it on here before. I linked an interview with him a couple weeks ago. He’d had something like 12 carries for 34 yards if I remember right, in a big game, and when asked what happened he blamed the coaches for not giving him enough carries. As for the fumbles, both him and his coach have stated in interviews that fumbles “just happen” and that it isn’t a concern.
I like jenkins idk why
As for wilson please no. Idc if he becomes a hall of famer. lets find someone for the line or another secondary man, even a wr. lets hold off for the RB in round 2
I love the Bengals more than you love anything in your life
After this most recent Rey Maualuga incident...
I don’t think the Bengals will select a questionable character in Janoris Jenkins.
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
no thanks
A problem child and a fumbler… sounds like Mike Brown
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 10, 2012 1:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I would be pissed if
They took Wilson in the first round, especially over Miller or Martin. I am a believer that if we dont go running back at 21 that Miller, Martin or Polk will be off the board by time the Bengals 2nd round pick.
by EPK1979 on Feb 10, 2012 1:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dont worry this isnt going to happen
Seems any player with trouble’s Cincy has to be interested in,Sporting News take notice the Bengals are moving out of
the Ghetto
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
ok
I believe Martin and Wilson are both much better than miller. Ok, Miller is a big back with speed but doesnt break tackles and has no balence. Wilson has the best balence in the draft but he is only 200 lbs, Martin is bigger and still has good balence. If you watch the film on all 3 backs you will see. Even if Richardson falls out of the top 10 pics somone will still trade up for him by the 15th pic……
by Terrell Keith Renaker on Feb 10, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions
I disagree
Wilson fumbles too much, his vision is terrible and has an attitude problem from everything I have heard. Miller may be the least experienced but he also has a higher ceiling than both imo.
by EPK1979 on Feb 10, 2012 3:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Miller
There is a reason most have Miller as their number 2 ranked RB. No one else in the draft has the size,speed and vision that he posseses. If he isnt a player we select, next year he will be a player we all will say,damn,why didnt we draft him.
by EPK1979 on Feb 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For the record
I would hate this draft and probably throw something at my TV if it played out this way.
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by Anthony Cosenza on Feb 10, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions
I'm a little tired of the whole
“Bengals don’t care about character concerns, so we’ll mock them to guys with character issues” thing.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 10, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions
i hope reggie nelson doesnt leave.
He is the only player who brings fear to players coming over the middle. Did anyone see him knock the wind out of antonio brown. Brown was trying to rip his shoulder lads off it hurt so bad. And there were a ton more hits he laid cleanly but he always got flagged bc we r the bengals. If we can get another good safety and a real middle lb ithink our defense would be great. Leon and clements still have talent. Between ray missing his assignments and crocker getting burnt it made our defense suck. We should take one of the steelers lb if they release them bc of them being over the cap, sign or draft a safety, sign a fa wr for the number 2 spot, and add a olineman. We have a good foundation we just need a couple missing players. Fuck whitner. Imagine us with witner and jjoe this year.
by OBlock85 on Feb 11, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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