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Possible Salary Cap Casualties For The Cincinnati Bengals

Due to the nature and overall structure of the salary cap, teams often decide to release veterans on the tail-end of a contract, enabling the organization to sign other players, or at the very least keep core players without the penalty of going over the cap. For the Bengals we realize that the issue of cutting players to save salary cap room isn't likely to happen this year for the insane amount that Cincinnati is under the cap, unlike previous years with guys like Rudi Johnson, Willie Anderson and Levi Jones (who was dealing with knee degradation issues). That being said if the Bengals cut players for salary cap reasons, these players could be the quickest to go.

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ROBERT GEATHERS

Why he could get cut: After generating 10.5 quarterback sacks during a breakout 2006 season, Bengals defensive end Robert Geathers has only posted 13.5 sacks in his previous five seasons (72 games played). However Geathers is expected to earn $4.2 million (which is the same as his cap number) in 2012 after a season in which he was rated as the team's worst defensive player by Pro Football Focus.

Why he won't (that doesn't include lack of need to cut based on salary cap issues): Depth and rotation. Jonathan Fanene and Frostee Rucker will be free agents next month, meaning that if the team is unable to sign either defensive end, then they'll need to focus on stabilizing their depth -- especially with some durability concerns with Carlos Dunlap. And since the team's salary cap won't be problematic, forcing the organization to release a player to free up cap space, Geathers would likely stick around, even though, again, Pro Football Focus rated him as the team's worst defensive player in 2011.

NATE CLEMENTS

Why he could be cut: Bengals cornerback Nate Clements, a former salary cap casualty with the San Francisco 49ers, is due to make $4.3 million in 2012 with a cap figure of $5.5 million, second highest on the team. Though one could argue that the Bengals have a desperate need for cornerbacks, there's no reason to believe that the Bengals won't do exactly that through free agency and the 2012 NFL Draft. According to Pro Football Focus, only one defensive player on Cincinnati's roster scored a worse pass coverage score of -5.7 (Kelly Jennings at -6.6).

Why he won't (that doesn't include lack of need to cut based on salary cap issues): To put it bluntly, the Bengals value his leadership and veteran presence. There were few defensive leaders like Clements. Additionally whatever flawed performance he posted in 2011 can't be judged with tremendous weight due to a single factor: The NFL lockout in 2011 that forced Clements to sign right before training camp, contributing towards a slower integration into Mike Zimmer's defense. Now Clements will have an entire offseason with the coaching staff, continuing his understanding without the need of thinking through the processes, thus increasing his reactions.

And yes. He gradually did get better over the course of the season. In the final five games of the year (including the Wild Card game against the Houston Texans), Clements only posted game with an opposing quarterback rating higher than 80.

KEITH RIVERS

Why he could get cut: After missing the entire 2011 with an injured wrist, the Cincinnati Bengals could decide to release Rivers with an injury settlement if his rehabilitation with his wrist continues to take its time. Currently Rivers is expected to make $2 million in 2012 with a cap figure of $2,537,499, thus deciding to abandon the Keith Rivers era, which has been unexceptional to say the least. Though he was second on the team in tackles behind Dhani Jones in 2009 and 2010, there was always a void -- how many game-defining plays do you remember that Rivers made?

Why he won't (that doesn't include lack of need to cut based on salary cap issues): Though Rivers has disappointed a lot of fans who expected the child of Rey Lewis and God to be selected ninth overall in the 2008 NFL Draft, Rivers is one of the team's more consistent tacklers and from 2009-2010, he generated the least amount of yards allowed per tackle during running plays. Additionally Manny Lawson, Brandon Johnson and Vincent Rey will be free agents this year and since there isn't a need to save against the salary cap, and the relatively manageable cap number, the Bengals are likely to play it safe by keeping the roster stocked as much as possible... at least for now.

CHRIS CROCKER

Why he could get cut: Crocker, projected with a $2.125 million cap figure, struggled in 2011, allowing three touchdowns and an opposing passer rating of 93.3. Crocker, who turns 32 in March, has failed to generate an interception in 33 straight games (including the postseason) with his last pick coming against the Oakland Raiders on November 22, 2009.

Why he won't (that doesn't include lack of need to cut based on salary cap issues): Quite frankly his salary cap figure is minimal within the scope of this discussion. In other words if he's released, it won't be for his salary -- it'll be for his production. Even though he's still an effective pass rusher (5.5 quarterback sacks in the past two seasons), Crocker's future with Cincinnati greatly benefits being a team with a depleted secondary. Unless the Bengals can rebuild safety and cornerback position, along with his relatively low cap number, Crocker is unlikely going anywhere.

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geathers and Crock are done

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by ticalcaldwell on Feb 17, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

What Casualties ?

Keep the youth movement going….

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by 77CincyRage on Feb 17, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

With the depth issue's

I could see all of these player’s coming back,however if Rucker and Fanene sign,Geather’s probably should be sent
packing.

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

i think the player with most chace of getting cut is Crocker because he just simply aint worth the money we pay him

Clements, and Geathers are solid veteran players and its not like we really to need find ways to produce extra cash.

Rivers im on the fence with, i think he would be a trade casualty. We could probably get a decent CB or SS out of rivers.

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Feb 17, 2012 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

why would he have value?

he’s a mediocre LB with an injury history and no big play potential. I don’t see other teams chomping at the bit for a guy like that.

by indesignkat on Feb 17, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Say what you want about Keith. But is a solid player, he was never that big play making LB in our system that we thought he could be

but teams looking for LBs, I.E. Eagles, would be interested in him. He is still realtively young and could be that playmaker for some one else.

Im not concerned out his injuries because they were two seperate injuries that were non-releated. If he had a nagging hamstring issue or something to that extent, I would be a little bit more concerned. I just wouldn’t close the book on him just yet.

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Feb 17, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

my take

Clements should be retained, as should Jennings if he’s cheap enough, but only as long as the team doesn’t consider the CB situation good enough after that. We still need at least 1 starting CB. Hall is still an unknown thanks to the nasty injury, so we can’t count on him being full strength in week 1. Clements is pretty good and might be good enough as a starter, but not for long. We need one more starting CB.

Geathers should be cut unless Fanene & Rucker are lost.

Rivers should go. He’s been soft since his jaw was broken. Same thing happened to Kerry Collins. He was an excellent QB, then that roidfreak broke his jaw, then he was just a shadow of himself. When confident he could dominate, but when his confidence was shaken he was atrocious. Rivers never dominated, but he looked pretty good, then after coming back from the broken jaw he was almost invisible.

Crocker should go. Lots of DBs can get to the QB on blitzes, that doesn’t make him special. It’s a scheme thing. A DB that can blitz but sucks in coverage and gives up big runs is a DB that should be looking for a new job.

by indesignkat on Feb 17, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

crocker

no way he is back. He will not start for our defense. And paying a backup safety 2 million would be a problem.

I love the Bengals more than you love anything in your life

by cincybengals on Feb 17, 2012 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Not Crocker

Know I am going to get hammered for saying this…BUT our whole secondary was scrambling back there after our #1 cb went down. They were confused and playing stir crazy, trying to compensate for the lack thereof. wasn’t all about Crocker. h
He is a good player, and has contributed a lot to our team. not every player to be a superstar!

by Makebelieve on Feb 17, 2012 10:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I agree to a point

Crocker can at least be a backup on this team. They like his leadership and he is one of the few veteran presences on the roster. I don’t think they could find a better backup in Free Agency, though there is really no reason he should be starting.

by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 17, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Crocker was seldom where he was supposed to be when the QBs were passing the receiver off

Crocker escorted Foster into the end zone in the playoff game. Crocker is arguably the worst player in our secondary, starter or not, IMO.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on guys!!

Its Crocker, i like him for his leadership, but he doesnt belong in the starting role, maybe in special package but not a full time starter, and besides i think we are judging him to hard over one game, I mean its just ONE game and i know it was the playoff but lemme say this

Crocker was good but i think its time to move on from the guy and re-construct his contract, if not, we will just have to cut him, as much as i like his leadership in the locker room, i think he will just have to take his role as a back-up at best, besides, his NATURAL POSITION IS FS which NELSON IS NOW PLAYING AND HE WAS PLAYING SS

by Touhue Cha on Feb 17, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it wasnt just one game

the problem was that Adam Jones was rushed into the line-up and Crocker and him wasnt on the same page and they were playing different style in the Cardinals game

Jones was to get a jam on Fitzgerald, which he did but he was suppose to get him out of bounds and drop back into the zone which Crocker was expecting Jones to jam Fitzgerald out of bounds, but they were thinking two different things

by Touhue Cha on Feb 17, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I dont have the Playbook,

but i know my coverages and what is suppose to happen
with a lot of film studies and mistakes i can learn by watching it,

If im right they were in a Cover 2 shell which would allow everyone to drop back to sit in zone, but before the DB’s can sit into zone, they need to throw off the timing of the WR on the outside and the QB Jones did that part right, but the problem was he was caught looking in the backfield and he didnt drop into his zone, and Crocker took a false step on the inside which allowed Fitzgerald to get behind Jones and luckily Crocker was able to get back far enough to make Fitzgerald to cut back inside

Point is that Crocker shouldnt be blame for the issues in the secondary, theres been blown plays be everyone in the secondary, but im just trying to say that dont need to blame it all on Crocker, but i agree that he should get benched

by Touhue Cha on Feb 17, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Too many times it happens.

You are just pointing out 1 game. It happened in many more game than that. He may not be the only issue with our secondary, but he is the biggest issue.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 17, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure someone would give us

A 4th maybe even a3rd..ideally though id love a rivers for asante Samuels trade :)

by beast_ on Feb 17, 2012 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

+1

That would be an awesome trade! Whodey!

by Makebelieve on Feb 17, 2012 10:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I hope we keep Rivers

Depth is key in this league and Rivers is exactly that. He’s not flashy but he’s solid. You could do a whole lot worse. Look at what happened to the Giants.

by Mexal on Feb 17, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1

He’s not a liability at his position. Howard has shown promise bit injuries do happen so if we can keep good depth at any position why not. They need to make some kind of move at SS. Crocker should be upgraded but we still have Mays & Sands so if it isn’t with one of them then one will have to go. With a full off season they’ll have a better chance to shake things up a bit. During the season is not the time to try out new people which is what they would’ve had to do last yr.

by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 17, 2012 11:06 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Agreed

Well put Mexal!

by Makebelieve on Feb 17, 2012 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Crocker = DEFINITELY!!!

Geathers = Yeah, I would not be upset if he got cut as well…

Rivers = No Way, we need him, he is better than Vincent Rey or even (am I like him) Dan Skuta

Clements = Again no, we need him or this season at least, he can help educate a CB we draft. I think even if we manage to sign Routt, we still need to draft a CB….

by pemci on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

The only reason anybody should be cut this year is if they find a better replacement

Since the cap isn’t an issue, they may as well keep ALL of these players unless they can be replaced from a talent perspective.

by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 17, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Most of them can and should be replaced

The Bengals have to show that they aren’t content fielding a team that’s pretty ok. That they want guys who deserve to be starters in the NFL, not guys that underperform but are cheap. To bring in free agents without paying through the nose, the most important draw is to have a team that is solid and has a shot at the super bowl. You get that by filling your roster with good players with good attitudes, not keeping mediocre guys because they’re inexpensive.

by indesignkat on Feb 17, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Peko?

I like the guy, but we could sign 2 DTs just as good as him for what he’s making. He’s a pretty good player, but if I remember right he’s the 2nd or 3rd highest paid DT in the league. There are at least 20 or 30 DTs in the league that are much better than him, so I think he should rework his contract or else start to produce.

If he’s not a cap casualty this year, and his play doesn’t improve drastically, I can almost guarantee that he’ll be a cap hit next year.

by indesignkat on Feb 17, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

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