2012 NFL Draft: Rob Rang Chooses Linemen For The Bengals In Latest Mock Draft
There are many theories on how to build a successful football team and one of those theories is you build it from the inside out, meaning you start with the offensive and defensive line first, and then you spread to the skilled positions. After all, what's the point of having a star quarterback or running back if you don't have somebody to protect them or block for them. The same goes for the defense. A stud linebacker looks a lot less studly if he has no defensive line to help him out.
Building the team from the inside out is exactly what CBSSports.com's Rob Rang has the Bengals doing in his latest NFL mock draft.
With the No. 17 overall pick, Rang has the Bengals choosing Stanford guard David DeCastro.
The strong play from rookies Andy Dalton and A.J. Green has hidden the reality that the Bengals remain a team that prides itself on running the football. DeCastro is earning comparisons to former Oakland Raider great Steve Wisniewski for his size and physical play.
I'll be honest, I love this pick. DeCastro is the best guard in the draft and the Bengals desperately need help at the guard position. Nate Livings isn't going to get the job done and, even if they re-sign Bobbie Williams for another year, his age means he doesn't have much time left in the league. Getting a good guard that can start right away would be a big deal for the Bengals.
With the No. 21 overall pick, Rang believes the Bengals could pick somebody up for their defensive line: Memphis defensive tackle Dontari Poe.
The Bengals finished the season ranked 10th in the NFL in rush defense but allowed at least 136 yards rushing in four of their final six games and gave up an average of 200-plus rushing yards in their last two games -- a loss to Baltimore to end the regular season and a loss to Houston in the opening round of the playoffs. Considering the fact that Cincinnati also has three defensive linemen (Frostee Rucker, Jonathan Fanene, Pat Sims) entering free agency, reinforcements could be needed via the draft. Poe is a bit raw but at 6-5, 350 pounds, he's tough to move and remarkably light on his feet.
I certainly understand this pick, especially with three defensive lineman possibly leaving for free agency, but I think I would rather see the Bengals re-sign one or two, or maybe all three, of their defensive linemen and go after a different position with the second first-round pick. They need help in the secondary badly and a selection of a cornerback or safety with this pick, in my opinion, would be the better move.
So, Bengals fans, DeCastro and Poe. What do you think?
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No way DeCastro is available at 17.
I’d love it, but no way he gets past the Cardinals or Cowboys. He’d be a perfect replacement for big Bobbie WIlliams, though.
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by Mike Fightmaster on Feb 2, 2012 10:32 AM EST reply actions
Not sure about the Cardinals
but I bet the Cowboys pick someone to help their secondary thats in shambles imo.
by TCfromDubVee on Feb 2, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Major need is an Offensive line for Kolb.
LB’s are also a need for Cards, but not as bad as OL IMO. Either way, they need a lot of help. haha
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by Mike Fightmaster on Feb 2, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
kolb might not be there come 2012 start
cards could always trade kolb away. agree the cards need to address o-line badly in fa/draft. there 1st round pick will depend on which LB and which o-line are on the board.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
John Skelton might be their starter.
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Considering Levi Brown is horrible and may not be on Arizon'as roster anyome, they could also target a LT, if they choose to address their O-line in the first round
If that’s the case, Stanford’s Jonathan Martin, or Ohio State’s Mike Adams could be considered before DeCastro,
I agree that DeCastro will probably be off the board by the time #17 rolls around, but there are always unforeseen events and sections in the first round, which, in turn, causes some good players to unexpectedly fall.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
"there are always unforeseen events and sections in the first round, which, in turn, causes some good players to unexpectedly fall."
This. I don’t understand why so many people say “No way such and such prospect falls”. These things happen. Are some not likely to fall? Yes; but “unforeseen events” happen.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 2, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
For everyone who thinks DeCastro will not be there
Don’t forget to take into account most teams do NOT value guard that high and most do NOT have the luxury of 2 first round picks. Cowboys need to address the secondary and there’s a good chance one of the top 3 CB’s are available to them when they are on the board (Kirkpatric or Jenkins) and they may see better value in taking a guard in the 2nd round. Same with the Cardinals they may see more value in taking a tackle in the fisrt round b/c there’s a good chance a few elite tackles will still be availabe (Mike Adams stock has sky rocketed) and they can just address guard later in the draft
really depends on what teams that need o-line help decide to do with the tackle question
kalil will be off the board either at #2 or #3, depending on any draft day trades. then you hit the fins, bills, chiefs, seahawks, and cards. any of those teams could move on a guard or a tackle.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
+1
he will be gone…top ten guy in this draft…
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by ticalcaldwell on Feb 2, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Cant Wait
DeCastro in orange and black !!!!
Whooo deyyyyy
Do you know what a super man Ass Whooping is ?... Its the type of Ass Whooping you wish you could Fly away from !....
Anything with DeCasto I love
Would rather our 2nd pick be a CB (Gilmore), but I’d take it because of DeCastro
If DeCastro falls to us it's a no brainer
Unless Richardson is there, too. I can’t imagine that scenario happening in a million years, though. But I dont’ see any reason for us to get a d-lineman in the first. Especially a “raw” prospect. You can find a big man project-type lineman in the later rounds if you just want to add bodies to the rotation. Too many other holes to fill. I’d even rather see us get a LB at 21 than a d-lineman.
+1
D-line just isn’t a big priority. The Bengals desperately need help in the secondary first. I’ve said all along that I would draft a defensive tackle in the 4th or 5th round. UC’s Wolfe is projected to go around those rounds and from all indications he is very stout against the run.
I want Derek Wolfe really bad...
I think he’s going to shoot up draft boards after the combine. if he’s there for us at the bottom of the 3rd I’d go ahead and grab him. I think he could be the next Justin Smith (in the good way…not in the “we have no idea how to use him so we’ll ship him off in free agency for him to become an All Pro for someone else” way).
Does Wolfe bring boxes of beer everywhere he goes like Smith?
by njbengalstat on Feb 2, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we can probly persuade him.
Wolfe next to atkins is what i wanna see
by Bengalsfan024 on Feb 2, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I like Wolfe as well.
Great motor and think he could excell in the right scheme.
by TCfromDubVee on Feb 2, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I would be okay with this.
DeCastro would be fantastic. A DT at 21 is okay but I’d rather have a CB or S. One thing we don’t talk about much is the FA on that D line. We’re all assuming that we’ll get a couple or hopefully a few back but what if we don’t? That leaves Peko & Atkins and all of a sudden a huge hole.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 2, 2012 10:53 AM EST via Android app reply actions
WOW
Lets hope DeCastro Falls to 17 and at 21 i rather go with Jenkins if hes there if not then we can get Gilmore or we can just get a OT or WR
i would obviously love decastro
But Poe would be great too. I couldn’t complain at all about this draft.
by JCompton41 on Feb 2, 2012 11:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm on board, but
would rather pick secondary help over DL with that 21st pick.
Though Poe is appealing as a huge boy with quick feet who could clog the middle for years to come. You are not going to block him with one body, you will need two. That would open up more holes for Atkins, Dunlap, and others to sack the QB.
Still rather have the secondary help though.
a no brainer IF decatro is on the boards at 17
doubt he is though, doubt he is =(
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
decastro is a safe pick
we need an upgrade their livings was not very consistent and we are missing that push on the line great pick
DeCastro plays right guard, Livings played left guard; I'd get Livings replacement in free agency.
Bobbie williams is who DeCastro would replace.
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i think we struggle in free agency to aquire big name guys, people dont want to play in cincy regardless of how good they who wants to pay for a soda
My point is, DeCastro would play right guard here, still need to find livings replacement in either the draft or free agency.
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im still not convinced about andre cant we move hom to rg and put coolins at rt if we resign him. or shuffle some guys around what about clint
Clint Boling's a left guard; I'd prefer not to shift guys around too much, puts them out of position.
Here’s a possible line
Whit, Boling, Cook, DeCastro, Smith
or Whit, FA, Cook, DeCastro, Collins
or Whit, FA, Cook, DeCastro, Smith
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1st looks good as long as livings and bobby are gone ill live. get rid of ced pac man simpson caldwel. i just think we have to good of a team to be too predictable i believe with a full traing camp things will change. i want to see different packgages with leanard and scott in the back feild spred the field. keep four good backs share the ball iwas sick of ceds me me
Bobbie was our best Run Blocking lineman last year
why do you want him gone so bad? I’d take him back for a year.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 11:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'd take Bobbie back gladly, I'm just saying if we somehow get lucky and draft DeCastro, he'd play his right guard position or sit behind Bobbie for one year, not play left guard.
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Oh I know, I was talking to the other fella
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 12:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Aight, gotcha.
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old
i guess hes good for one more year. fresh blood, look what andy and aj brought i just want to see wins no matter whos playing. i just feel that the youger guys play with more passiuon not expierence but passion. its like my job i love what i do but everyone around me has seemes to have lost the love bengals should of been 12-4 this year but it falls back on marvinmove him to gm. hes a defensive guy
^This
Bobbie is a good NFL lineman. He’s not easily replaceable.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 2, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
RBBC
The Bengals might even get rid of scott and get a free agent, a draft pick, and leonard to split carries/catches like the Saints use their running backs.
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everyone says that scott did not pan out he never got the ball enough to show anything. hes a poormans chris johnson just needs too muscle up a little
Maybe, but even if they do keep Scott, the Bengals should use a rotating runningback system like the Saints.
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And I'm not necessarily suggesting we get a big name guy to replace Livings, just someone better than him.
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I miss Evan Mathis...
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by Mike Fightmaster on Feb 2, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Same
But after the way he left Cincy, I doubt he’d want to return unfortunately. All because of Paul Alexander.
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And Dhani Jones for linebacker coach, he knows Zimmer's system.
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With DeCastro,
we don’t need a big name or stud LG. Clint Boling would do.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 11:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, hopefully now that they put him at his natural left guard spot, he'll excel.
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Ravens are gonna let grubbs hit the market
by Bengalsfan024 on Feb 2, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
And Grubbs is a left guard by the way; he'd replace Livings
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I think DT is another underrated Need
Atkins, while he’s great and we all love him, needs to be paired with somebody who commands double teams. Somebody who can plug the running lanes and eat up space. Atkins is solid against the run, but he’s not big and can be moved one on one. Peko is an average starting lineman. He isn’t great against the run and offers almost nothing against the pass. He’s smart and good with play recognition along with being a leader, but He can be upgraded. Poe adds everything I just said. Big body. Can control the LOS and is very hard to move. Vince Wilfork clone.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 11:35 AM EST via Android app reply actions
He’s a free agent and I can easily see him going elsewhere. Plus, he’s never played a full season.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 11:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree that DT is an underrated position of need, but spending a 1st round pick on your best position group when there are clearly other needs at other position groups is highly questionable
Plus, does Poe provide the best value at #21? I’m not sure. I would rate Still and Brockers as the best DTs in this class, and I think there is a bit of separation between those two and Poe and Fletcher Cox, for example.
Also, the Bengals have done quite well in finding productive d-lineman in the middle-tolate rounds.
All lineman from last season’s roster (before Sims went to IR and was replaced by Hayden) were drafted by the Bengals, and none were first rounders. In fact, they even only had one second-rounder (Carlos Dunlap, who probably would have gone in the first round if it weren’t for his DUI and perceived “character” issues – see how those “concerns” can be overblow?). The rest were 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th round picks, and ALL were selected by the Bengals. Considering that the D-line was unquestionably the team’s best (and most productive) position group, this fact evidences that the Bengals actually do quite well in identifying talented d-linemen in later rounds who fit their scheme.
With that said, I’d pass on Poe in the first round (at least at #21). There are just other positions on the roster that need to be addressed before the d-line, and there are more players of “value” at #21 than Poe, IMO. We can address the d-line in later rounds. Maybe a Brandon Thompson from Clemson in round 2, or Kendall Reyes from UCONN in rounds 2-3. I also like Mike Martin as a late round possibility (6th or 7th round).
Atkins is solid against the run, but he’s not big and can be moved one on one.
Also, with regard to your Atkins comment, although he’s not the biggest DT around, he surely is one of the strongest D-linemen in the league. All I recall seeing on tape is Atkins moving interior lineman around and dominating the point of attack, and not the other way around. I recall specific plays throughout the season (starting in the very first game against Cleveland, then in Jacksonville, Ravens game, Rams game, Cardinals game, just to name a few that I specifically recall) where Atkins was easily winning (in fact, dominating) one on one battles. There were times when Atkins would literally drive back guards on a straight bull rush. One specific instance of this occurred last season (i.e. 2010) in the home game against the Saints. Atkins was giving fits, all day long, to both Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks (both All Pro OGs, who are considered two of the best OGs in football). I specifically recall multiple times where Atkins literally drove Carl Nicks (the best OG in football) 3-4yards deep into the backfield on straight bullrushs. You have to be strong as an ox to drive back a 350lb man (Carl Nicks) 3-4 yards. The Saints eventually figured out that they needed to double team Geno, but in one on one battles with both Nicks and Evans, Atkins EASILY won his share of battles – simply watch tape of that 2010 game against the Saints.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 2, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have a subscription to PFF, but this was the brief summary they had about Atkins in grading his play against Carl Nicks in the 2010 regular season game i mentioned above
In a flash of his potential, he did get the better of Carl Nicks (an All Pro guard in our opinion), and that lets us know the special ability to make a big impact is there.
Here’s the link
And actually, the game tape of that Saints-Bengals game in 2010 is most impressive. Geno stands out on that tape against one of the best linemen (best 2 guards) in pro football.
In most one on one plays that I recall, Geno won (and often dominated) those battles. I recall the playoff game against Houston center (Chris Myers), where he literally drove him off the line on a run sweep to the right, and many, many more plays like that.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 2, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I remember that game...
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 12:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The please don't jump offside "Pat Sims" game!!
Who could forget?? And then J-Joe getting beat on the quick-slant for the game-winning TD.
Lost in Atkin’s superb play in that game, was the whole “clock management” issue the Bengals had on the game’s last drive. Carson was pissed, Marvin was pissed, the city was pissed at Carson, all for the way they handled the time management on the last drive. I came away from that game thinking that Geno was one of the strongest men in football. H’e only 6’1" (if that) and not much more than 300lbs, but I love Geno and the man is as strong as an ox. He had his way with Nicks and Evans that game.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 2, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Destroyed them.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 12:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think you're falling into the trap of drafting for need
Everybody seems to think if we don’t get a CB, OG and RB in the first two rounds then the draft will be a failure. That’s just not true. Yes, the line was the strength of the team last year, but they didn’t dominate anybody – particularly not the great running offenses like the Texans/Ravens. Imagine how much better the secondary would look if they could completely shut down a team’s run game with their front four and continue the pass rush they displayed last year.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 2, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Never mentioned drafting for need. I adhere to the "value" draft strategy. It is essentialyl a hybrid of the BPA and draft for need models
Value also takes into account how a specific player ranks not only in his specific draft class, but also how he projects to other current-NFL players at the position.
I just don’t think that Dontari Poe brings the best (or even most) value at pick #21, and I even I like Poe as a prospect.
Also, there is more to stopping the run than just the d-lineman. Mike LB plays a big role, and we’ve all seen Rey struggle at times. Can the d-line improve? Certainly. I just think selecting Poe at #21 does not bring the best value.
By way of example to illustrate that I don’t believe in the “draft for pure need” strategy, is that if someone like Coples fell to #17, I would have give serious consideration to picking him. Coples did have a great senior bowl, but as Joe G. has pointed out, he disappeared at times during this past season.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 2, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Peko is better than avg...
While all the others are getting sacks and tackles he is getting double teamed a majority of the time. Peko and Simms against the run forced teamed to try and run it outside because they clogged up the middle. Not one RB that I saw ran in Peko’s direction and got much yardage unless Rey missed a taclke… Poe’ a bigger body but he’s not better than Peko…
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by Dwight Carter on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Not today, but in a year? I’d be willing to bet on it.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 12:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
if the bengals fail to resign Frostee Rucker, Jonathan Fanene, and Pat Sims
would be a bad sign for 2012 and the draft as well. we’ll have no choice to stock up on the d-line in the draft. with no guarantees the rookies will be anywhere close in skill level to what we let leave in free agency.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Even with those guys, they need an Elite, All-Around player at DE.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 2, 2012 11:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah Joe, but it's not a priority!
We’ve got Johnson & Dunlap
and had (i believe) the 2nd most sacks in the AFC
not including pressures or hits (had a lot of those ).
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Dontari Poe would help give Geno and the DE's more opportunities for sacks, since Poe would be taking up multiple o-linemen
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pass rush specialist
we need a speed rusher i thought mock was the fastes backer on the team
We will see what he brings next year hopefully.
HOPE he looks good.
The Bengals have a few good speed rushers like Moch, just need a big DT to take up multiple linemen to give the speed rushers opportunities for sacks.
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mochs migrains
i hope he see the field this year from what i hear , he soundssss fastttttt
He's supposedly as fast as a runningback
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I disagree VERY strongly
we don’t need another pass rusher, we need a guy who will occupy multiple o-linemen to free up the guys on the outside. MJ and Dunlap can usually get to the QB if there’s only one guy to beat.
Let’s not forget the recipe for success Marvin had with Baltimore’s D. 2 BIG DTs that occupy 3-4 linemen between them, then fast DEs and OLBs that generally outnumber the remaining blockers and get sacks left and right. Couple those with a couple good man cover corners and a hard hitting safety and you’ve got a Super Bowl ring waiting for you.
No speed rusher
We do fine with the guys we have. Even though Frostey and Fanene aren’t considered speed rushers their will do just fine. If we can get them back. A big guy up front would help out against the run and maybe give our lb’s some room to work. I don’t have the stats in front of me but I believe that Howard was the only one that had over 1 sack and that # was 2. That’s horrible! Yes we got alot of sacks out of the line but we don’t have a lber that can pass rush at all. Now theirs a difference in how they may go about this. Alot of teams like the ravens use their front 3 to purposely tie up the o line without really trying to get to the QB. They hold and pull OL out of position freeing up the LB.
We really need to keep the guys we have to see the same success as last season. It’s not impossible but but it would be nice and maybe add one big guy in there. I heard Simms is going to test free agency. This is when we’re going to find out where their priorities lie. Their not going to go to another team and see an 8 man rotation and IMO that’s why the each had so much success and career high stats. If they leave and say it’s just because they want to start I won’t buy it, instead I’ll look at their pay day as the biggest reason.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 2, 2012 3:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
you might get your way with the bengals taking a LB/DE in the 1st
if Courtney Upshaw somehow falls to 17, he’s a guy that could play either OLB or DE in the nfl.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Maybe Luke Kuechly to replace Lawson/emergency option behind Rey?
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poe
i like peko but i see him being dominant on another team for some reaso we need a plugger on the d-line and i just expected a little more fom peko. id take poe ,
i like all three
its about the rotation keeping them fresh keep frostee pat and fanene
It's extremely unusual for a guard to go in the top half of the first round
And I REALLY hope it doesn’t happen this year. DeCastro is a dream come true pick.
stats
In the past 10 drafts, 9 guards have been taken in the first round. Of those 9, Mike Pouncey and Brandon Albert (who is an NFL tackle, not guard) are the only ones that went before the 17th pick. They both went at 15.
thats right
How many great Guards do you know of that went in in the top twenty. Not many !!
QB,OT,CB,DL,LB go at the beginng of most drafts. I say that he is thee at 17.
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by BengalDude on Feb 2, 2012 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
need help on backend of D
we give up too many big plays when we get teams in 3rd and longs. hopefully we can land a safety [landry?] in fa. and fill our needs at corner and rb thru the draft.
It would jsut work out perfectly for us if DeCastro fell to us
that way we wouldn’t have to reach for anything in the first to fill needs. Top 3 needs are guard, CB, and RB. If DeCastro or Richardson doesn’t fall to us it probably means that we would have to reach for someone with pick 21. If we take CB at 17, 21 will be a reach for Glenn or a reach for whatever RB we want- Miller or Martin most likely. I hope they don’t take a need if we are reaching for it. Rather them take BPA. But DeCastro or Richardson falling to us at 17 would mean that we could take needs with our first 3 picks without having to reach.
I'd be thrilled with that...
…especially if we got a CB in free agency, or if Leon Hall was healing up faster than expected.
If we lose Sims, DT becomes a major need. Good d-line play can help mask a secondary’s issues.
Another quiet need we have: backup LT, if we lose Collins. I’d like to spend one of our fifth-round picks on one.
We'll re-sign Sims. Can't afford not to.
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i hope we bring back simms, rucker, and fanene
losing any of those 3 is going to force our draft to address their loss.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
I think the must-haves on the DL are..
Dunlap, MJ, and Fanene on the outside, Atkins, Peko, and Sims on the inside. Peko isn’t worth nearly what he’s being paid, but he’s a pretty good player. Rucker is a good rotational guy, but if he’s looking for a full-time payday then forget about it.
Fanene is the one looking for the payday.
That’s why we only got him to sign a 1 yr deal. Frostey won’t be half as expensive and just as productive. Frostey is better against the run also.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 2, 2012 3:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think Fanene might be worth a payday
But that would be elsewhere, because we’ve got something great with our rotation. I really don’t think Rucker would live up to a big contract as a (nearly) full time defender.
Agree
Frostey shouldn’t demand much and I doubt he even test the FA waters. These guys have to realize that most of their success is from the rotation here. If they go elsewhere I don’t see any of the D line FA being as good as they were this season. They can’t complain about playing time because they all got a good amount giving them some career high stats.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 2, 2012 4:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I can't argue with this
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As long as we don't select Cordy Glen, Alphonzo Dennard or Janoris Jenkins
Then 1st round picks aren’t wasted
I wouldn't be against these as the choices
Despite the struggles in the secondary, the talent in the D line is masking a problem at that position. There are 3 FA’s, Sims being out exposed the Bengals lack of a big body up front who can occupy blockers, Sims and Dunlap cannot stay healthy, and MJ has never lived up to his freakish talent. The Bengals strongest position is looking more and more like a potential weakness when you consider the above. If they have the ability to draft a Vince Wilfork then it only makes everyone else better. Atkins won’t be double teamed and lineman won’t get to the LB’s. All of that should translate to being better against the run and even more pressure on the QB, making the secondary better. There are also several CB’s who could be grabbed in the 2nd and 3rd who appear as though they could be impact players.
"With their second round pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select
Peter Warrick, wide receiver, Florida State."

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