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The US government, looking for something to do, has struck at website that broadcast free NFL, MLB, NBA, etc... sporting events. The most well known are the firstrowsports sites, which the US govt has gone after.

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http://www.wtop.com/?nid=351&sid=2732316

This is my favorite line from the article:

U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara warned sports fans in a release that piracy costs sports leagues and broadcasters millions of dollars, forcing increases in ticket prices and other costs to consumers.

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By their reasoning, fans watching games for free forces ticket prices to rise. So now that these sites are shut down, the tickets prices will drop, right? Ha ha! I'm looking forward to the day that the NFL, NBA & MBL cut ticket prices across the board in response to these sites being shut down.

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Also they say these sites that show games for FREE force costs to consumers. I'm not sure how the consumers have costs forced on them by a free site, when the whole point of a free site is that the consumers do NOT have any costs (that the NFL wants to charge them).

Poll
What do you think of the US govt shutting down the sites that show NFL (and other sporting) games for free?
It's a good move. It's the law, and it needs to be enforced!
5 votes
Generally i agree w/the laws, but come on...don't take away my free NFL games.
8 votes
Huh? There were free sites, and now their gone. D'oh!
4 votes
Shutting them down is crap with a capital "C"....and so is the NFL blackout rule.
40 votes
Whatever...I've still got 8 months to find the new sites that will pop up to replace these.
31 votes

88 votes | Poll has closed

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feds win! the feds win!

whack a mole on the net.

nope.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 2, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

It like the cart return at the supermarket

They say when u return the carts, it lowers the price of food I just see food prices rise just like ticket prices. The guy who collects the carts still gets paid the same and so does the sports leagues

by njbengalstat on Feb 2, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

Two back to back posts on the same topic. But again, this is old. Back when it happened, the first row just packed up and moved to Europe.

by emeybee on Feb 2, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

bull

How does this relate to ticket sales? It doesn’t. It relates to Sunday Ticket subscriptions, but not ticket sales. The people who stream online are the people who can’t see the game for free on local tv, i.e. people like me who are hundreds of miles away. Personally I do have Sunday Ticket, but if I didn’t I’d probably stream it too. Whether I do or not has exactly 0.0 impact on Bengals ticket sales, merchandise sales, parking revenue, etc.

by indesignkat on Feb 3, 2012 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

Who keeps carts from the super market?

Besides your local homeless person and that tin can man. Lol

by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 3, 2012 1:31 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Ha no returning carts to a couple parking spaces reserved for carts. Not just leaving the cart by ur car

Ha i forget we live in different states. They say that if u return ur cart to these certain plays, they dont have to pay some kid to run around the parking lot to collect them. Hence it would lower prices which is BS

by njbengalstat on Feb 3, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Ticket prices, if government be believed, are determined by market forces

IE, whatever the public will bear. If people are hunting for free resources, then clearly the ticket prices are not what the public will bear.

Go Reds!
(and gooooo krogering)

by supergrover on Feb 3, 2012 6:39 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

You guys disgust me

I can’t believe you think it’s alright to steal because you don’t like the rules. You bunch of thieves!

"Pawtucket Patriot Beer. If you drink it, hot women will have sex in your backyard."

by Evil Monkey on Feb 3, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

so its ok to spend tax payer money on civil issues?

when there is already an established system for dealing with civil grievances. you’re happier spending tax dollars on criminal investigations, criminal prosecution, and incarceration?

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 3, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

if ones stumbles across a website that freely offers live video of NFL games, is it stealing to watch what is freely offered?

if one stumbles across a bar that freely offers live video of NFL games, is it stealing to sit in the bar and watch what is freely offered?

if one is at Sears and stumbles across the TV department, that is freely offering live video of NFL games, is it stealing to stand there in the TV department and watch what is freely offered?

Unless one is actively pirating the video feeds, or unless one is knowingly paying for pirated video feeds, are they stealing?

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

Who knows how Sears or BW3 or the website acquired their NFL video feeds?
They have them…you watch them. How can that be bad?

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

Did you just agree with yourself?

by OhWell on Feb 3, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

somebody has to

:)

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

dude....

Do you have a sock puppet on a non controversial fan site?

Go Reds!
(and gooooo krogering)

by supergrover on Feb 5, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I am completely, totally unsurprised

That the last two options in the poll are together a flat out overwhelming majority of the vote.

by FriarBob on Feb 3, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Anybody want to speculate why it costs $14 to buy a CD these days?

Nah, it’s easier to complain that the Feds are trying to take away your free shit. It really is theft. Granted, the blackout policy puts our situation in a little different light, but if you are watching it for anything other than blacked out games, you are stealing. There’s really no way around that.

Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson

by Grizzlyfox on Feb 3, 2012 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

"Anybody want to speculate why it costs $14 to buy a CD these days?"

Because the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

And how can you even claim that it’s ok for blacked out games but not for any other reason. That’s hypocrisy.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 3, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the digital music industry is worth billions and growing yearly

the cd is dead because its obsolete. the 20 billion dollar a year mp3 industry killed it. cds were 20 bucks back in the 90s.

as for the feds involving, its a waste of tax dollars paying for criminal investigations, criminal prosecutions, and incarceration. there are already civil means to handle IP theft.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 3, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I still buy cds cuz i like how they look and the info inside like a old school record

I heard they r even taking cd players out of cars soon and pale totally agree with the waste of tax payer money

by njbengalstat on Feb 3, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone want to speculate why CDs cost the same amount back in 1990?

I bet it’s probably NOT because everyone was pirating songs back then…

by Luke on Feb 3, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I bought my first CD in 1991

AC/DC The Razor’s Edge
It cost about $13 if I remember right, and I know they were up over $15 later in the 90s.

Don’t act like $14 for a CD is a recent development that was forced by the money lost to piracy.

I am not a big supporter of piracy by any means, but if they want to stamp it out they have to start making these industries play fair. There aren’t many products that you can’t return if you’re unsatisfied, but movies, music, and video games have always been that way. Spend $15 for a cd or $55 for a video game and if it sucks, tough. You have NO recourse.

by indesignkat on Feb 3, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

been burnt by a game before

bought the stupid sega cd player all those years ago for joe montana football. game was horrible, incomplete, and played terrible. the sega cartridge was a superior version versus montana football cd. could i return the game? nope. i was stuck with it. called sega complaining after i couldnt return it to the store, sega cs laughed and said too bad.

sold the sega cd after that, hated it. never bought another sega item either. laughed when the dreamcast died. even went so far to buy a dreamcast used after market for like 25 bucks and then thanks to usenet, grabbed a football disc for it. got even with sega even if it took me 10 years.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 3, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

not to even start on the MPAA

they’re crying the loudest about piracy, saying their set builders and their children are starving because of piracy, yet every year or two another summer blockbuster sets a new record for highest grossing film of all time. It’s ridiculous. ET held the title for like 15 years, then Titanic for 5 or so, since then (in the golden age of piracy) it’s been beaten over and over again.

by indesignkat on Feb 4, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

a small Frosty was $0.99 at Wendy's in 1990

a small Frosty is $0.99 at Wendy’s in 2012

Obviously people are pirating Frosty’s.
Stop pirating Frosty’s!!!!

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

F#&% T#& M#&%#! F&%$!%# F@#'s

They are a bunch of lazy, Lying, Taxpayer spending, cheating, crooked,
evidence planting, Let’s write this “witness” a script so he can lie on the Stand for us
and we’ll cut him a deal, even though we put him up to it, Co%# Su#%&* ’s !!

On the whole…..The Fed’s are more crooked than you can ever imagine.

Why??…………..Cause they lie, cheat, steal and with-hold.
But “THEY” justify their actions by saying that their “on the right side of the law” (Ha, hA).

I know that most Upstanding (naive) Citizens think……….
“Well there are a “Few” bad apples in every industry of life.

But with The Fed’s, You’re not talking about a few, You’re talking about a culture!

They are trained to get whatever evidence they can….“By any means” even if it means that they have to lie, cheat, make-up, steal or with-hold evidence of actual innocence. And as long as they can make a case “stick” ……..The “Culture” say’s it’s okay, While the public is mislead &misdirected.

I say this, not as a disgruntled citizen, but as an intelligent citizen who doesn’t have
his head buried in the sand and doesn’t eat the force-fed Bu## $h*% that’s shown
to us everyday.

Have you ever noticed why there are a million shows on TV & Cable about Judges,
Cops, CSI, Detectives, missing persons, etc.etc.etc.

It’s meant to keep the public scared of the “Big bad wolf”

Ever wonder why the USA is only 5% of the world population and yet “WE” lock-up
more people than the Russia,China, Germany,Japan,Korea and the UK combined??

Anybody out there realize that there are over 1 million Americans doing
anywhere from 2 to 7 years in prison for “smoking” pot (a victimless crime)??

We’re not talking “trafficking” or “distribution” We’re talking “Pot Smokers”

Cause it’s an Industry that creates and maintains jobs and kick-backs for these lazy, crooked, dishonest, pretenders.

And now that I have exercised my 1st amendment rights (freedom of speech)
I’m sure I’ll be “put on a list” , “Visited” and “monitored” closely.

And those, my friend are the tactics that they use to intimidate the average citizen
from using those rights.

They instill the fear of God in you, if you dare to question their method’s or tactics.

Of course, I can’t give myself any credit for these insights………….They all came from
3 of my favorite movies. Can anyone guess which movies??? wink.

"What we do in this life echoes in eternity"

Maximus*

by gratefulmax on Feb 3, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

You are the man sir!

I share these same views about the F#$&@!_ F#&$.

by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

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