Package Containing Marijuana Was Not Addressed To Jerome Simpson
by Jason Garrison on Feb 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST
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PrintAccording to The Kentucky Post, Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Jerome Simpson is due back in court today at 1:30 p.m. (ET) for the drug trafficking charges against him. As I'm sure you remember, Simpson was under investigation by both federal and Northern Kentucky law enforcement agencies after a package containing 2.5 pounds of marijuana was shipped from California to his Northern Kentucky home.
Related: Simpson Pleads Not Guilty | Bengals Have Eight Off-Field Incidents Since 2010
Now it seems that the package of marijuana was not actually addressed to Jerome Simpson himself.
Simpson's attorney says although the package was delivered to Simpson's home, it was addressed to another person.
This, of course, changes a lot of things we thought we knew about the case, and while it baffled some that Simpson would plead not guilty, now everything makes a little more sense.
Stay tuned throughout the day for more news on Simpson's court appearance.
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uh ohhh... could this be, Jerome is really not guilty?
for all those people who jumped to conculsions, I guess there are still more facts yet to come out in the case.
I had a feeling there was more to the story than what was published, because there was no reason why Jerome shouldn’t have been arrested on the spot for all that weed. Unless of course there was evidence suggesting that it COULD have been for someone else.
AMAS
+1
Well said. None of us know the complete set of facts. All we have is the one-count indictment which detail “facts” according to the police version. Jerome is guaranteed his 5th amendment right to due process, which entitles him to a presumption of innocence. This needs to be respected.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
AD to AJ = TD!!
by Toasted_Orange_Monster on Feb 22, 2012 5:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
easy explanation
If I had weed sent to my house…I wouldnt have my name on it either…All that really matters is the address, who owns the address and the contents…period…He probably made up a fake name….The fact that Rome has said nothing about the case just makes him look more guilty
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"The fact that Rome has said nothing about the case just makes him look more guilty"
him saying nothing proves nothing. His lawyer probably advised him to say nothing to compramise his case. Anything he says now isn’t going to help in his case, he is better off just not saying anything until the case is resolved. Its standard to say nothing even if you know your innocent. You stand nothing to gain by talking to media outlets.
AMAS
by AMAS85 on Feb 20, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly AMA
Any defendant named in any indictment will be counseled by their attorney to not say anything. The reason has absolutely nothing to do with guilt or innocence. Rather, anything the defendant says about the case (in public or otherwise) can be used against the defendant. Moreover, if any statement contradicts any other prior statement he made, the statement can be used against him to impeach his prior statements (I.e. To lessen the defendant’s credibility). Hence, virtually all criminal defendants are counseled not to say anything, regardless of guilt or innocence. It has to due with the admissibility into evidence of any and all statements made by a defendant.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Black stripes
I feel like your the lawyer of Cincyjungle. Keep up the good work
by njbengalstat on Feb 20, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
go ahead and tell yourself whatever you want to
I understand the legal aspect of his silence….my point is…..silence always implies POSSIBLE guilt (its not fair…but its reality)….I am a homer too guys….I hope its all a misunderstanding….there is no need to explain the law to me…..trust me…I get it..
The sad truth is….anyone who is wrongfully accused,…especially of something like receiving multiple pounds of weed…usually screams from the hilltops that they are innocent…come on guys….bunch of sh__house lawyers on this site….lol
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Even someone who has only gotten in trouble
and no law degree would know better than this…
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Your last paragraph is simply not true.
On advise of counsel, it is prudent not to say anything. Adjudicating a defendant’s guilt or innocence by their silence, is akin to adjudicating their guilt or innocence based on something like their appearance or socio-ecomomic status. Faulty logic like, “Well, that guy just ‘looks’ guilty”, is the same as concluding, “Well, that guy hasn’t said anything, nor has he shouted his innocence from the hilltops, so that means he must be guilty, because if I were wrongfully accused I’d be shouting my innocence.”. That is not how our legal system works. You may say that your comment reflects “reality”, but note that a courtroom is very real, and at trial, in a court of law in the United States, the jury is specifically instructed that they simply CANNOT take into account a defendant’s silence. The defendant’s silence cannot even be considered in jury deliberation. That is a specific jury instruction in all criminal trials, and it is the law of the land (5th amendment right against compulsory self-incrimimation – more commonly known as a defendant’s constitutionally protected right to silence).
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 20, 2012 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
clearly you mis-read something
the address, who owns it and the contents of the package all seem to matter far less than THE NAME….or we wouldn’t be discussing this- he’d have been locked up in week 4 or whenever it was
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
under your logic
i could buy tons of weed and send it all seperately to each key member of the Steelers offense and defense and we could just have them all locked up.
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
no because there is a reasonable doubt that it wasn't their weed
thats the point your not getting. There was enough evidence at the time to suggest that Rome may not be the person involved. Or he would have been brought to jail right away and they wouldn’t have waited months to cite him.
there is obviously a big part of the story thats missing. and thats all im trying to point out. There is a reasonable doubt that Jerome is involved.
“under your logic
i could buy tons of weed and send it all seperately to each key member of the Steelers offense and defense and we could just have them all locked up."
and this statement doesn’t make sense? what are you trying to say?
AMAS
was replying to TicCaldwell, not you AMA
sorry for the confusion. I completely agree w/what you are saying
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no worries brother
FREE ROME!
or atleast hold off judgment until he’s found guilty/non guilty.
everyone here is so quick to condemn off field incidents and call for a guys head after 1 bad game
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
come on guys
my cousin received 3 pounds of weed from mail…….he didnt say anything publicly either…..I agree…he is not proven guilty yet…and I hope he cleared of all charges…but come on guys….come on guys….lets live in reality….I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt this was all a misunderstanding…..,.HE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE POUNDS IN HIS HOUSE…..you guys crack me up…lol…
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
".HE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE POUNDS IN HIS HOUSE"
And this is NOT a part of this case…
You crack me up
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
so we are separating the cases huh
like I said…bunch of sh__house lawyers….ok my bad….in this case…lol..come on guys
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
No
He was charged with the one and the other is not even a part of it.
Read the original story and you’ll see.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
The one-count indictment is specifically limited to the shipment, not anything else purportedly discovered during a subsequent search of the residence.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 20, 2012 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am with you guys on the case details...got it
My question is about the weed that was reportedly found at his house. Was there weed already in the house?
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
thats where it isn't specific
the stated they found the pot in the house but they didn’t say which room. And I think thats why the name on the package is the most import piece of evidence because it probably links the the person to the package and the belongings they had in their room.
thats the only way I see why Jerome wasn’t arrested. Because the package was really meant for some one else at his residence.
AMAS
It's a moot point
it has NOTHING to do with it.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Talk about sh_ouse lawyers
you have no idea what you are talking about whatsoever
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think he is guilty Oregon?
Do you think the weed was for him or not? Just curious
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know
Don’t have the facts. But apparently some of us do
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
come on man............lolololol
exactly….I wished I lived in your world….not trying to personally insult you Oregon…I apologize if you took it that way….I hope he gets off…I just cant justify the weed that was already found… don’t care about which case it was a part of….that just seems more like a legal technicality….If the report about the weed that was already found turns out to be false…I am with you then…
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
weed
Dont get me wrong….weed should be legal…period…I have no moral objective with Rome…period…but in the context of our current laws….he just looks guilty
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
*objection
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
really if you think about it, all we are really worried about if he gets charged with intent to sell because that is the harsher crime in this
if they find that the pot found in his house was for recreational use (most likely), its a way lesser crime. But they have to prove the smoke was his and that he knew about it.
It very well could have been just for his friend, but YES I doubt he didn’t want any of it lol
AMAS
But that's just the thing.
The charge does not have anything to do with what was in the house. You are compounding it by including that. The authorities are not including that.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
was there multiple pounds of weed already in the house
just answer that question
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Dude you are stuck on something
that has NO bearing on the case whatsoever
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I am just talking about my own personal judgement of guilt....personal opionion
I am not talking about the prosecution’s case…Was there multiple pounds of weed already in the house? I am just asking you a simple question.
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
yes there was
and it was also WAY less than was originally reported.
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
and doesn't impact THIS current trial
i’m not disagreeing with you that the bud was for him or wasn’t for him- but in court, the only thing that matters is what you can PROVE beyond a resonable doubt. Since his name wasn’t on it, and he didn’t sign for it…that goes a long way w/the defense
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
I am with you
I hope his lawyer fights his a___ off and gets him back to our team next year…(at the right price)
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
ok..now we are getting somewhere
I was just trying to say…I doubt it was a misunderstanding…Rome can get off with a legal technicality with the name…but I just doubt HE had nothing to do with it
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
right
but all that matter is if they can “prove” he had something to do w/it- and so far all we know is that it went to that house….which isn’t enough to convict
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
enough to convict and actual guilt are two different things
I would smoke one with Rome right now…you guys are kinda battling with a supporter not the enemy..A great lawyer can get Rome a huge win in this…
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
not trying to battle, just clearing the air
i know you support him….my overriding point though is that in this instance- and ANY instance in court, there is no difference b/w conviction and guilt. Public opinion can change, or not- but the only one MB or the NFL will care about is that of the courts… and in this instance, i think he has a very real chance of getting off
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
According to reports
Yes there was weed already in the house. I’m just confused on what that has to do with this whole conversation
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Gah! Don't come in with your off the wall stuff
and try to confuse it more
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
gotta disagree with you man. When you are in the position of these NFL players, and you’re the one that “made it” you get a lot of hangers on that you can’t just ditch, they are your friends. Well, sometimes they do dumb shit and make you look bad. Lots of athletes/famous people have people that are in their house more than they are. It’s not abnormal for them to be housing a pretty big group of friends.
I don't get it, I've bought my wife a vacuum cleaner for Valentine's day four years in a row, and she still doesn't understand.......
just how much I love her
i do. both my original 2 were in response to TicalCaldwell
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I wouldn't say $#!+ either
No smart defendant would say anything
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know where everyone else got their info, but I thought this was old news
The house the package was sent to was just owned by Jerome Simpson, which is why he was legally questioned in the first place. He had been renting it out to either friends or relatives. Normal investigation would lead police to talk with Jerome, especially after finding more weed in the house. He was never living there, why would it be addresses to him. I have rental properties and if my tenants were selling drugs out of the house, it’s not my responsibility….. Unless I know about it…. Regardless, he has more problems with his traffic stop. The guy needs to go, there are plenty of free agents that could equal or better his production.
by thenailer33 on Feb 20, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think you hit the nail on the head with this comment, besides the part he has to go
i think it was one of his friend/ family members trying to get cash dealing. I did the math on how much Rome would have made selling what he had and it didn’t add up because he makes way more with just his football salary to even get invovled of this crap and go through the trouble in flipping what he had for profit.
AMAS
Let me tell you this,
I have seen worse decisions from people that had more going for them. It doesn’t surprise me in the least for him to do that if that is something he did before he started to make money. You see it with other players around the nfk as well. Greed will get to some people, or just the fact that they can do something. Maybe he was doing it for someone else?? Who knows, but I bet he didn’t think he was going to get caught. No one does.
by thenailer33 on Feb 20, 2012 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true, just because it doesn't make sense to one, it may make sense for another person
but like a said, to go through the trouble to barely make what you make in one week, isn’t really worth it. Im sure Rome has to much going with football to really invest his time in dealing. But his family members or friends might be a different story.
AMAS
That was what was originally reported
I remember reading that about the case originally. It was addressed to a person that was living there, either his girlfriend or a member of his “posse”, I suppose. This is not new news. Why he got in trouble is they asked him if they could search the home (he agreed) and in the process of searching the home, they found more pot and scaled and other things that indicated someone was selling pot out of the home. Since he owns the home, it is pretty much regarded that he should know what’s going on in his own home.
I’m sure his defense is going to be “It wasn’t to me” and “I knew nothing”. That won’t hold water when he’s getting stoned and it’s all over the house what’s going on. Remember the old saying, “ignorance of the law is no excuse”. He’s gonna get probation or a few months in jail. He pleaded guilty because his attorney told him they might have problems proving the case and that might get him a better plea deal. They also are trying to find out who supplied him in exchange for a better deal.
You're both right and wrong
1.). Yes, this is not news. It had been previously reported that the package was not addressed to Jerome, and that Jerome die NOT sign the package (his girlfriend signed for it). However, you are correct that it has been known for quite some time that the package was NOT address to Jerome. Not news.
2.). You are wrong about the subsequent search of the house that resulted. Yes, the police did search the residence, and yes, additional marijuana was found, but OS was NOT nearly the amount that the media originally reported. Imagine that, thd media jumping to conclusion without knowing all the FACTS! More importantly, however, is the fact that thw one-count indictment against Jerome is specially limited to the 2.5 lb package of marijuana shipped to the house. Read the indictment. It is strictly limited to the delivery of the package, and does NOT include any marijuana purportedly found in a subsequent search of the residence.
So much false information has been spread about this case. Jerome is entitled to his constitutional guarantee of a presumption or innocence. Let’s just let the legal process play out, and not jump to conclusions.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait what?!
The media jumps to conclusion?! Ha Your right, it seems thats all they do these days; just to get the shock factor and higher ratings
by njbengalstat on Feb 20, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
kinda like how Cunningham only interviews the manager who got "punched" by rey
and not any one in Rey’s defense.
Bad news is good news for the Media. They are just prone to being negative.
AMAS
Ha ya
Thats another thing. They LOVE the bengals
by njbengalstat on Feb 20, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
….the Media. They are just prone to being negative.
The media is paid to report newsworthy stories.
But the problem is that 99% of the time, there are no newsworthy stories to report.
So the media has to either stretch anything they can into something newsworthy so they can keep their jobs reporting. Or they have to take something mundane and give it a controversial spin, so they can sell it off as newsworthy.
That’s why when you listen to a post-game interview it goes like this:
reporter: on the interception, did the receiver run the wrong route? or did you not recognize the coverage?
QB: i dunno. i didn’t see the cornerback.
And then the headline comes out like this:
QB admits he can’t see. Team to send him to vision specialist?
or
QB doesn’t know what routes the receivers are running.
I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!
oh i agree, its to get people to buy into their stories more. I get it lol
i was getting mad at cunningham when he was interviewing that manager that got “punched” and he was just buying into everything that guy was saying. And calling rey names as he was interviewing that guy. It kinda made me sick, bcause he was being ignorant about it. But of course, he was doing it on purpose to keep people who are listening interested.
AMAS
Ha, regardless of all that
Tell me what is better; bring in a free agent who doesn’t drop almost half the balls thrown his way. A guy that can produce better numbers as a consistent reliable threat opposite of green, who doesn’t have indictments hanging over his head….. Or keep Jerome.
by thenailer33 on Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if you look at the top of the list with WR that had the most drops, there are some pretty good WR on the list
i don’t think the drops is the most important stat to look at
AMAS
:). That was one of four things I mentioned
They kinda all go together, not to mention that it took him 3 years to learn the playbook. I know grudens was new this year but it was probably 30% of the entire thing and Simpson was still running wrong routes. Yes, he can jump high and has made some great catches, I just think he’s still a question mark. If we get a well respected 2 option, think how better green will get. Simpson is just not that guy right now.
by thenailer33 on Feb 20, 2012 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good news so far
He’s still too inconsistent to sign for 3-4 yrs, but I wouldn’t mind having him back for 1 or 2 more to see if he can work on learning the new system more.
by WhoDeyTim on Feb 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Original story by ESPN
This is from September. It said then that the package was to a different name and that his girlfriend signed for it. Lame defense. “Just send it to…. Ed something and it will be fine”. If they catch me, I’ll just say it was Ed’s".
How stupid do we think he is?
Would he really have the weed sent to him?
Its possible Rome didnt have anything to do with this,other than providing the cash for a ghetto ass girlfriend.
Possibly there were some leach’s hanging around his pad,family,girlfriends family,boys from the hood.
The fact that they were selling,was just complete ignorance.
The worst is,that if Rome didnt have anything directly to do with this,he is paying the price for being the nice guy.
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I've never had weed delivered to my house
But if I did, I probably wouldn’t be stupid enough to use my real name.
by EarthwormJim on Feb 20, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Or use the postal service!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
i thought he used UPS?
I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!
from what I read about the US postal service, they don't have as many inspections as a private company like UPS would before shipping it out
so it is common to send the drugs us our US postal service, from what I read.
AMAS
that's def. wrong
I was a U.S. Postal Service Letter Carrier for 12 years, they have their own Police force, trained dogs and 1 million dollar machines that sniff and radiate packages all day long, not to mention each package is probably handled by 20 different people in the shipping process and any one of them can call a stop to it and have it examined. I have posted on here before of my own similar experiences to this case, if someone goes out of town and it’s a known fact, local dealers WILL use their residence as a shipping point, any letter carrier worth 2 cents has a red flag thrown up because they know they are not home, if it is someone down the street from Rome who knows Rome’s not home and isn’t privy to how this works has a packeage sent to Rome’s address and it IS delivered, all he has to do is go to Rome’s mailbox and get his “stuff”, happens all the time. I have personally seen this same thing take place 3 times, and all 3 resulted in immediate arrests, but all 3 were picked up by a local thug, makes me think they were thrown for a loop when the door was answered and someone signed.
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
How many thugs do you think live right down the street from ROME
I really hope he isnt that stupid to still be livn in the hood
Anyone attached to that weed knew Simpson
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
hell, thugs are everywhere
and come in all shapes sizes and forms, I live in Rural Hamilton, and there out here too.
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
by joeb69 on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if you ever lived in the hood
you know there’s a huge difference
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
grew up at liberty and vine
went to St. Francis Seraph, I know the difference
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I got ya
but since 9/11, the Postal Service has really gone overboard with their security measures, that’s the last place I’d suggest sending your dirt through
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
lol i figured as such
i wouldn’t have the balls to do that in either case (through a private or government opperation)
I was just surprised that it happens more often than what people would think.
AMAS
Does the Post Office Keep Records
How much Postage was on the Package?
For sure the difference between the scale of the postal service and the amound found in Simpsons house can tell all.
What do you think?
The Question is simple.
Package was sent.
Simpon did not sign.
Others had access to Simpon home.
Did Simpson ever fail a drug test?
Who can say that Simpson was just a guy walking down the road.
Who can say that Simpson is a wrongdoer?
What did Simpson Do? Did He Action to sell Pot? Or Was Simpson Passive to the works of Big Time Drug Runners?
Its like Watergate. What Did Simpson Know and when did He Know It. Does Jerome Simpson need money?
Or was Simpson the Sucker of a play in life that ends with the Direction of Persons who are the Producers.
Was Simpson walking in life? Who is the Person who Mailed Simpson?! Who Is The Mailer?
Who wants to hurt Jerome Simpson? The Persons on a string are the bad guys!
Direct Traffic on multible ocassions is the smoking gun.
What did Jerome Simpson DO?
Again. What Action of Crime Did Jerome Simpson Conduct?
Simpson must have watched the commerical that says
“if it fits, it’s ships”, and thought it applied to pot also.
ha ha!!!
I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!
Who Cares
Even if he’s not guilty i dont want the bengals to resign him, we saw glimpses of his potential last year but he’s inconsistent, and just not a reliable #2 wide out.
by thegrassisGREENer18 on Feb 20, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions
i think it has been noted, Simpson does better when he is targeted more in the games.
so look at the games that he actually been targeted at least 8 times to the ones he was only targeted a few times, you will see a big difference.
Plus any WR we bring in is going to have the same problem. And thats getting Andy to look the other way, in which I think Andy will get better at. Im for keeping Simpson, he still has a big upside.
AMAS
Sure, but there are guys who could have done well in 'Rome's situation last year.
It takes a lot of focus, but there are #2 receivers out there who can step up when only called on a few times. Hell, look at Shipley. He’s not the #1 option and never has been, but he steps up and makes a play almost EVERY time he’s called on. Playing across from a guy like Green, ‘Rome has to understand that he isn’t going to get a huge number of looks (but when he does, he’s going to have single coverage).
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
I agree, Rome needs to step up if he wants to stay with the team.
but it did seem like towards the end of the year, the offense was finding their groove more and they were getting the ball to the 2nd wr and gresham more consistantly.
I don’t think resigning Simpson to a one year deal with a seconde year opition, is really out of the question. But if we can get a better 2nd WR opition, Im all for it, but I don’t think we will go after those few FA that would be considered better than simpson. Just not ou style in FA.
AMAS
True
But if we can sign him for 1-2 years for low money, he could compete of rthe second receiver, and be one of the most dfangerous 4th receivers in the NFL.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
Oh, I'm not at all opposed to keeping him if he's found not guilty.
But I don’t want to depend on him as the #2 going into the season. In an ideal world we’d get someone really good like Colston or even Wayne`in FA for that job.
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We need to bring in someone to compete with him...
for the number 2 spot even if we do re-sign him. It might give him the spark he needs to improve his play cause I definitely think this legal issue was a bit of a distraction for him this year. I mean, the whole drug trafficking mess didn’t rear its ugly head until after the second game against Denver where he had 120 yds receiving so he was off to pretty good start early in the year until this off-field incident popped up. I think once this is behind him and if he is found not-guilty we could see a different and hopefully better version of him, hopefully the one that we saw in the last two games of the 2010 season.
I think we have some of those already....
Armon Binns and Vidal Hazleton will provide competition for Simpson…but could use a few more as well
I'm talking a proven veteran...
in all honesty those guys aren’t going to push Simpson too hard, especially for a number two receiver role. They might be hidden talents but I think they might emerge more in the mold of a Hawkins or Whalen-type talent. If we’re relying on them to draw coverage off of AJ as number 2 receivers than we’re better off going with Simpson who at least has proven he can make explosive plays from time to time. I’m talking more along the lines of a Robert Meachem or Kendall Wright, or maybe even Reuben Randle.
Although technically...
Wright and Randle aren’t proven veterans in the NFL either. But they have much more upside than Binns and Hazleton.
+1
I actually agree with you. Dalton needs to scan the whole field and any WR we bring in will deal with the same issues.
I still don’t think Rome is the answer though.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
Again, really no off season and a rushed training camp last year...
I expect Dalton to be better next season with a full season under his belt as well as a full offseason.
+1
I agree with you. I would have liked to see a little more of that from Dalton by end of last season though. You hope by the 17th game it would have gotten better. That is only thing that concerns me about things. Not a glaring concern just something he needs to work on.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
For Smokey Rome there are two systems of justice at work
The one that nearly all of us would face if police tracked one shipment of pot from known Californian drug dealers to our home in Kentucky where our girlfriend signed for it, ie the criminal justice system. Smokey faces that and then the NFL Justice System.
For the NFL a not guilty judgement in the CJS might not count enough to keep him from losing games next season. It might not count enough for the Bengals to re-sign him. It might not count enough to get him anything more than the vets minimum contract.
Regardless of how it turns out, I think he’s proved over 4 years that he isn’t a reliable #2 wideout and shouldn’t be re-signed by the Bengals.
the jerome defense
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/25/AR2010022506243.html
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Problem with bringing Rome Back
Even though Rome could come cheap,and has a huge upside
His lack of intelligence and need for attention are huge problem’s, despite needing all these years to contribute
There is something that just doesnt click,either understanding(OCHO) or work ethic
Still with a cheap 1 yr.contract i could see him back,if there is anyone to provide competition,and ROME thinks
what he has been doing is good enough,i wouldnt be surprised to see him lose the number 2
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
What need for attention?
I observed that Jerom was one of the first guys over to congratualte any teammate on their accomplishments. I agree that it would be nice if he stopped helping the refs with the first downs, but he has not seemed selfish to me.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
by jim0ijk on Feb 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I didnt say selfish
Rome seems like a great teammate
Need for attention,may have come from being left in the shadows of the 2cd most self-centered,attention seeker in franchise
history(OCHO) or whatching guys drafted after him excel,while he still struggled to even get a snap.
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Need for attention?
Where? When?
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we just need to sign Mike Wallace
then the talk of Jermoe becomes moot.
I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!
not sure if Wallace is worth one of our first round picks that might help us acquire TR
so the speak of Wallace maybe a moot point as well.
AMAS
Jerome is still not the answer as our #2 WR.
We need to draft Kendall Wright…OR sign a FA
1st RD-Kendall Wright-WR
1st RD-Cordy Glenn-OG
2nd RD-Brandon Thompson-DT
3rd RD-LaMicheal James-RB
4th RD-Keenan Robinson-OLB
5th RD-Devon Wylie-WR
6th RD-Julian Miller-DE
7th RD-Bob Hebert-C
FA:
OG
RB
SS
CB
LaMichael James
is the next Jahvid Best….really hope we don’t draft him
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
Agreed.
He won’t survive in the AFC North, he’s way too small of a back. We’d be better off with Scott as our feature back over James as Scott at least appears to be somewhat scrappy for his size and can hold his own when we need him to start.
Hold on Catching up to Where things left off...
Was ordering 5lbs of weed sent to my house and having the name “Mickey Mouse” put on it. I’ll be fine. Polishing my scales up and gathering my baggies and twisty ties.
i think the name on the package is the most important evidence
because it might tie to the person’s where the weed was found in the house.
thats my line of thinking.
AMAS
if that's the case
Then why was Rome arrested to begin with? I would think they would just arrest the person who had his name on the package. If no person lived there with that name then why do you sign for a package that is not yours?
I personally don’t care if he is innocent or guilty, it doesn’t change my thoughts on the guy , as far as on the field goes.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
lol
You can’t just charge someone and not arrest them. It’s called due process. You have to be arraigned and a bail set or not set. It’s a criminal investigation, not a civil matter.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
actually i don't think rome was ever arrested. he was cited to come to court and plea his case
but he was never arrested, or at least I didn’t see any reports where he was arrested.
AMAS
your correct
not 1 person was reportedly “arrested” OR put in cuffs and led out of the house.
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
you are correct
He was never put in cuffs, so I guess technaically he was not “arrested”.
I guarantee he was charged and arraigned, you know all the “technical” things that come with being arrested.
but
since he was never put in cuffs, he wasn’t arrested.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
go back and read the stories
the same ones that everyone on here has read. the same ones that contain the only ‘information’ that everyone on here is using to convict him.
if you find something different, please share, but going off of written accounts of what happened- he wasn’t arrested
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
maybe we're going off 2 different takes on what 'arrested' encompanies.
i think he was charged, and given a court date after the fact. The day this all went down, he was not arrested, nor put in custody or taken to jail. When I’m referring to ‘arrested’ I mean taken into custody and booked in jail…. tomatoe tomato
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
I agree with you.
I should have been prudent with my wording on my original reply.. He was not put in cuffs and thus he was not arrested. He was eventually charged and that is the word I should have used.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
NO...the weed that was already in the house corroborates the whole crime
the name means nothing…the name comes from client input….unless there was some type of name verification prior to shipment….then thats another story…I agree with you AMA..there is a lot of unknowns in this case for us to pass judgement…The fact that he already had a lot of weed in the house kind of kills it for me
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by ticalcaldwell on Feb 20, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
im saying , the name of the package hasn't been identified, but i have reason to believe the name is tied to where the pot was found inside the house
thats the only logical reason on why rome wasn’t arrested on the spot,. He had enough eveidence to prove there is a reasonable doubt that he did it.
AMAS
The Return to Sender defense...
“That’s not my package of weed, honestly officer. I don’t know anyone named “Ima Toker.”
Most likely we are looking at some sort of plea bargain with a possible 4-6 game suspension. I don’t care who’s name was on the package. The question is that going to work next year for the Bengals? I’m kind of leaning toward “No.”
Couldn't have said it better
I don’t think the story gets to the bottom line. So his name wasn’t on the package. If you have 2.5 lbs of pot delivered to your house and six lbs inside, YOU KNEW what was going on. The feds aren’t idiots. We’re not talking about Reno 911 here. They know “Rome” knows what’s going on and made up a fictional name. If it wasn’t his, the girlfriend doesn’t sign for it and open it up like, “here’s your package ‘Rome’.”
I’m sure they watched and monitored whether it was opened or anything was reported, like, “Hey FedEx, you delivered like 2.5lbs of weed to my house, what’s the deal?”
I'm not assuming anything yet...
but this is good news for him in my opinion. It makes the decision of whether or not to re-sign him a little less complicated. But I still think he’s not playing to his full potential yet and leaves a lot to be desired on the field. I think even if he does come back we need to bring in a new face to give him some competition for the number two job, see if that motivates him to play up to his potential.
Stop jumpin to conclusions
Yu guys wud b oissed if someone bkaed somethin on yu not sayin hes innocent or guilty but at least have a unbiased opinion nd how many if yu that smoke weed commented in this post? Come on now yall hold athletes to superhuman standards they r just lik me or yu I say give the kid a break until yu kno all the details who dey
by Rob the bengal on Feb 20, 2012 2:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I know someone
Who dated a cousin of a former star Bengal rb whose name I won’t mention. She was at this persons home numerous times because it was “the place to be” for people associated with this millionaire. According to her, people were always drinking, smoking weed and hanging out and most of the time the owner wasn’t home. When he would come home he would just go upstairs with one of two different girlfriends he had & not associate with anyone. She didn’t think he ever smoked. He was really into fitness and healthy eating/lifestyle. But he was still tolerant of people hanging at his place doing things that could get him in trouble. This could be the case with Jerome as well. Young guys get some success & money but there friends are still broke. Romes’ case has a lot of unanswered questions.
by frickja on Feb 20, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
+1
All im sayin is look at the situation with an unbiased opinion
by Rob the bengal on Feb 20, 2012 2:32 PM EST via Android app reply actions
As for Rey's case...
The barber didn’t seem to dispute the fact that Rey hit the manager. He suggested the guy was acting aggressively towards Rey suggesting self defense. Rey has a history of violent & unlawful behavior while drinking dating back to college on record. It got bad enough that after he apologized to fans for his DUI he swore off drinking & suggested he would get the assistance he needed to make sure he would clean up his act. One year later he finds himself in a dispute at a downtown bar. Not a good place to be at 3 am for someone who supposedly was going clean. I personally believe it fact that Rey was actually there that night. Maybe others will dispute that. Was he drinking? Numerous witnesses stated he was intoxicated. Did Rey hit the guy? Numerous witnesses at the bar say yes. What I read from the “barbers’” statement is that Rey reacted to a hostile character. Maybe thats the case. In my opinion going by Rey’s history I think he was being a stupid drunk. I have nothing against drinking. I drink. I do have a problem with bengals players assaulting citizens of Cincinnati. It’s all heresy and hot air on my part because like Jerome’s case the evidence hasn’t all been gathered. Some suggest I’m being ignorant and that’s fine with me. If Rey ends up not guilty then I f’d up big time. He has too many red flags in the past with alcohol to me
by frickja on Feb 20, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
thats the problem, unless they took his blood alcohol level that night they can't prove after the fact he was "drunk"
they league or the law can’t pin this against substance abuse, unless he admits he had been drinking an obsesive amount. or they have clear evidence he was drinking.
So its just going to be his word against the managers word.
I just doubt the fact the manager didn’t do anything to provoke the fight.
AMAS
He has a history
And witnesses and evidence jeromes is just circumstancial and he hasnt really had any oroblems.with the law whereas rey is a repeat offender
by Rob the bengal on Feb 20, 2012 3:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions
As for the witnesses
I’m sure both sides have witnesses inclined to side with each side respectively, but yeah the repeat stuff makes it worse
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares
he’s not that good a player — not worth the headache one way or the other. Good riddance.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 20, 2012 7:11 PM EST reply actions
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