PFF: Cincinnati Bengals Have Two Of The League's Better Pass Blockers At Tackle
by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 21, 2012 9:28 AM EST
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Print+ While we speak about this team's need to develop and find offensive guards, we're not so obsessed about it that we forget about other positions. If that were something we needed to worry about in regards to the passing offense. According to Pro Football Focus' grading system, the Cincinnati Bengals have two of the league's better pass blockers, according to their Pass Blocking Efficiency scores that applies snaps during passing plays and quarterback pressures allowed.
For example, Bengals offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth allowed 20 quarterback pressures, out of 582 snaps in pass protection for a Pass Blocking Efficiency score of 97.3. Over the course of the past two seasons, Whitworth routinely ranks either first or second in Pro Football Focus' pass blocking ratings. The Rams' Harvey Dahl and Cleveland's Joe Thomas are the only tackles with a better PBE than Whitworth.
But Whitworth wasn't the only Bengals offensive tackle to be scored with a PBE better than 95.
Andre Smith took part in 503 snaps in pass protection in 2011, allowing only 27 quarterback pressures for a Pass Blocking Efficiency score of 95.8. Now it wasn't the efficiency of Cincinnati's should-be Pro Bowl tackle, but it's a significant confidence booster for an offensive tackle that was once described as an early bust.
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Keep Collins!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Absolutely keep collins
Collins is perfect as a sixth lineman.. These figures should curb the enthusiasm for moving Andre to guard?
by Eric Bieniemy on Feb 21, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It'll never happen with Andre's contract
Personally, I say resign him. You can probably get him relatively cheap given what he put us through and it’d shore up both sides of the line for another few years. I think Whitworth has a lot to do with his success.
I love Collins but the guy deserves to start and I can’t see him doing it here. Great depth though if we can keep him.
Move Collins to left guard?
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
I read somewhere that Collins was given a shot at playing guard
and didn’t win the job… not sure they really gave him enough time though
collins can start at lt for 10-15 teams
And right tackle for even more. Doubt be stays to be depth.
by JCompton41 on Feb 21, 2012 10:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Keep Collins
he can offer a breather break during games to keep Whit and Moobs fresh much like they’re doing on the D line. And helps Collins feel like he’s helping out more. I remember when Paul Brown had shuttle guards during his coaching days in Cleveland.
Gramps,with a memory!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Not so fast Sonny!
Long as my assisted living nurse alternates my Exelon and Aricept meds I can remember everything except my name. It’s the damnest thing. Anyway the nurse doesn’t care she says she’s in love with me.
by sofakingood on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you!!!
It is about time someone other then myself is giving Smith his due. He played extremely well for us last year! If he can keep his weight down which I think is the main cause for his injuries he will be a great RT for the next 10 years. I like but do not love Collins. I would love to keep him as a back up. Nowhere near the talent of Smith. Again thank you for this article.
Very happy to see this
I’ve been saying Andre was a good pass blocker last year and a poor run blocker. Others thought I was nuts because of Smith’s background as a run blocker. Good to see my evaluations backed up by numbers.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 21, 2012 10:37 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Exactly, put him at RG besides Andre..........
then sign a stud LG like Nicks/Grubbs and we’re good to go.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
How about Collins at left guard then draft DeCastro for right guard?
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
Cool with either of those. Would love Nicks/Grubbs obviously, but if we're not looking.
to break the bank your option is obviously way cheaper. Liked Nicks/Grubbs at LG since that’s their current position and they are proven players. But would be happy with either.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Feb 21, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dang phones!lol
By resigning collins, it will also attest to the fact that this team wants to be committed to winning….
by Makebelieve on Feb 21, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Was there a flag on that play in the pic
Because it looks like a hold to me but if we got away with one against the steelers I’ll blow it up and hang it on my wall :-)
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 21, 2012 11:38 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Andre will keep getting better
I had Andre on my draft board .I like this guy,he is really trying to keep his weight in check. We need to show this guy support instead of making jokes about his weight all the time. I would extend his contract now before his price goes up.
Kenneth Michael Powers
by BengalDude on Feb 21, 2012 11:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hold up!
Andre earned the" MOOBS "label all on his own,and Andre has worked hard,that label no longer applies
Let’s wait and see if the guy is going to stay healthy,committed,and not become complacent
He is already been extremely overpaid for his overall production,at the very least back up 1 good season with another
before we get all carried away
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Andre is only going to get better.
Listed as one of the best pass blockers at RT in the game. What is funny is that he was known as a grade A run blocker, but his strength is pass blocking right now. McShay and Kiper, shut up.
by whodeycommish14 on Feb 21, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Most likely due to all his weight loss........
before he couldn’t move very well laterally, but since getting lighter he can now cover the edges much better than he could’ve before. Makes sense from that perspective I think……
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Feb 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Gee, is this why
it seemed all of the pressures/sacks came BETWEEN the tackles? The middle of the line stinks.
If Collins left...
It would make even more sense to draft DeCastro, Glenn, or even Adams. Those guys are versatile enough to play tackle in a pinch, but could develop at either guard spot
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