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Clayton: Raiders Could Have a Tough Time Keeping Both McFadden and Bush

Early in the 2011 season, the Raiders offense was really clicking thanks to the one-two punch combination of running backs Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. McFadden is the more electric running back, using his blend of speed, power and shiftiness as the big-play back. Bush is the 250-pound bruiser, wearing down defenses and imposing his will. The team has leaned on both of these backs for their offensive success and, in most cases, it has worked well for them.

The issue with each of these backs lies with the perception that neither will be able to be a "go-to guy" for an entire NFL season. McFadden, as exciting as he is, hasn't played a full season in four years, due to a variety of injuries. Bush is viewed as a back that has to be paired with a smaller, quicker counterpart so the "thunder and lightning" combination can succeed. Regardless, each of these backs are effective in their own respective way.

ESPN's John Clayton tweeted that the Raiders could have a tough time being able to hold onto both backs going into 2012 because of salary cap issues.

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So why is this tidbit of Raiders news being discussed on a Bengals blog? It's because the Bengals are in the market for a running back and one of these two players would fit the bill. With McFadden entering the final year in his lucrative rookie contract and Bush set to become a restricted free agent this season, this is a logical place the Bengals could look to make a move.

McFadden seems to be more like the type of back that the Bengals will be in the market for this offseason. They need speed and athleticism at the position and he definitely provides both. With the Bengals' West Coast Offense going into its second season, McFadden is the type of back that offensive coordinator Jay Gruden would love to have. His injury issues aside, the major hurdle for the Bengals in acquiring McFadden is that they would have to swing a trade for him. We also don't know if the Raiders are open to trading McFadden at this point, given their love of having players with speed. The Raiders do have a new General Manager who has been entrenched in housecleaning mode, so he could look to get McFadden's big contract off of the books.

For a few reasons, the more sensible acquisition of the two backs for the Bengals would be Bush. The Bengals have been linked to Bush dating back to the 2008 and 2009 seasons. If you remember, there were rumblings that the Bengals looked at drafting Bush late in the 2008 draft when he went pro. Then, when Chad Ochocinco made his trade demands public, rumors began to float that the Raiders were offering Bush in a trade offer for the then-Bengals wide receiver. Bush was a restricted free agent last offseason as well, and there were some more rumors of the Bengals being interested. Now may be the time for the Bengals to strike.

It's now just a matter of if the Bengals want the same type of running back that they coveted back in 2009. With Gruden's new offensive system, Bush may not be the fit that they are looking for. Though Bush did have career highs in carries and yards, he only averaged 3.8 yards per carry on the season. However, he did have a surprising 37 receptions on the season with an 11.3 average, and that's a facet to a running back's game that Gruden undoubtedly wants for 2012.

Though we may be grasping at straws a little bit here, it's important to note the cliche of "where there's smoke, there's a fire". Given the recent history here, don't be surprised if more rumors about this situation begin to surface between the Raiders and Bengals once again in 2012.

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I love the big bruising back

with a chance of pace back every once in a while…I’m going to be disappointed if the bengals switch to a smaller shifty RB system…I just dont think it can be successful in the AFV North division.

by WhoDey14 on Feb 3, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

AFC North

Name one bruiser in division this year?

by pray4gm11 on Feb 3, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How many games did he actually play?

He had one successful game against the Ravens and every other game he averaged under 4 ypc.

by Mexal on Feb 3, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton is only as good as his D line

I think the best combination is Foster/Tate…Foster is not a bruiser but has some size…and tate is a little smaller…WE NEED SPEED…and size..just like Foster

"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther

by ticalcaldwell on Feb 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

BUSH Sucks

2012 Nfl Draft
Bengals Pick 1a. Kirkpatrick
Pick 1b. Traded
Pick 2. Mark Barron
Pick 3.Traded with 1b for Forte, we sign him to a 5 yr 50mil deal

And Bengals kick ass on first 3 rounds on draft day. WHO

by Diesel2405 on Feb 3, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

forte will not be a fa

bears will franchise him if they can’t work out a contract. chicago has already stated they will.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Why did we trade a 1st & 3rd?

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 4, 2012 8:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Sign Bush which would allow us to draft LaMichael James and let us use our early picks to shore up the d/oline…definitely interesting but I doubt we make a move on Bush – he is going to get more than the Bengals typically want to pay for a RB.

Would be a fun combo though…

can’t realistically think we would get Forte. May as well go after Adrian Peterson or Arian Foster too.

by Bengalshopefull on Feb 3, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

LaMichael

this kid will get eaten for lunch in the AFC North…I am all for speed, but you need a little size…He is tiny, and not MJD tiny……

"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther

by ticalcaldwell on Feb 3, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

willie parker wasn't all that big

and he was an every down back in the AFC north

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

but few RB’s last that long in the NFL. It’s rare to find a RB who sustains a high level of play beyond 3, 4, 5 seasons.

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Saint Ephram

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 4, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind having James

as our screen pass back, or toss play back…he’d be our Darren Sproles.

by Bengal4ever on Feb 4, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

At the right price

I would take Bush. I wouldnt over pay for him. He is a solid reciever but I would pair him with a faster back. I like McFadden but he is always hurt. I think you could draft Miller, who has similar skill set that would be cheaper.

by EPK1979 on Feb 3, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Definitely would not be opposed to getting Bush...

Even for just 2-3 years, and still draft a RB as well. Maybe Pead, and take our time developing him more and getting him to Pro level status…

by pemci on Feb 3, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I want nothing to do with Bush

I’m tired of backs with no big play potential.

by Mexal on Feb 3, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Bengals would be nuts to sign a RB to an expensive contract

when the draft is fairly deep with RB’s and they’ll be cheap.
I’d rather see the Bengals use their scarce FA dollars on one starting OG , one starting CB’s, 1 nickel CB and 1 starting WR.

Then hit the draft for the RB’s at a fraction the price of a guy like Bush.

by BENGALS69 on Feb 3, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

McFadden >>>> Bush

Bush is a slow, plodding RB whose YPC has dropped every year

McFadden is an absolute stud (when healthy)

I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!

by ephram on Feb 3, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

And from what I'm heard from Raiders fans who I've talked to since the Carson Palmer trade...

McFadden has a fumbling problem which is why they’ve kept Bush around so long as their goal-line back because he’s much better at securing the football than DMC. Don’t get me wrong, I like McFadden, but his durability concerns me somewhat which is another reason why Bush has been there for so long playing behind McFadden when he has starter potential. Bush proved his value when he stepped up and helped carry their offense this year after McFadden went down and he is definitely a quality starting back in this league. McFadden strikes me as a Tiki Barber-type back with tremendous talent but also a penchant for coughing up the ball which Barber did eventually remedy later in his career. But I’d rather go with Bush, mainly because we have Bernard Scott as a shifty speed back to offset what Bush lacks in speed but possesses heavily in power and because I also don’t want to see any more backs with fumbling issues here (Benson, Chris Perry).

by dstacify on Feb 3, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think we will take a back in FA

I’d say it’s 95% they draft a back in round 1 or 2 and stick with what they already have on there roster, excluding Cedric Benson

by biggie22 on Feb 4, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

If we don't trade for

or sign a RB in free agency, we’d better draft one in the first round. I think a lot of people are assuming we can get a starting back in rounds 2-3. I don’t think that’s the case.

by Shake n Blake on Feb 4, 2012 4:58 AM EST reply actions  

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