Open Thread: Super Bowl XLVI
by Jason Garrison on Feb 5, 2012 6:02 PM EST
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PrintThis is it. Today the New England Patriots and the New York Giants, representing New York City and the Boston area, take the field in Indianapolis for the last football game of the 2011-2012 season. At the end of the game, one of the two will be crowned world champions. The Super Bowl is, year in and year out, the biggest television even of the year and has the pageantry of every Hollywood red-carpet event wrapped up into one to the point that sometimes the last thing people think when the words Super Bowl are mentioned is football.
We'll see commercials that are more like 90 second blockbuster movies and probably cost almost as much. We'll see a pre-game ceremony, a ridiculous halftime show and, if we're lucky, we'll see a good game too. If the Giants and Patriots can give us a repeat of Super Bowl XLII or their Week 9 game (both of which the Giants barely won), I don't think any of us would complain.
So, consider this your one-stop shop for everything Super Bowl. Talk about the game, talk about halftime, talk about the commercials, talk about the pre-game show. After this day, the offseason officially begins so soak it up.
Happy Super Bowl Sunday.
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zzzz....
Anyone else have zero intrest in this game? I will watch becuase it’s football, but deep down, I don’t really care what the outcome of this game is.
and the commercials
dont forget the commercials, its like having 30 plus mini shows during commercial breaks through out game.
AMAS
Last year was a game I had zero interest
in simply because of the teams involved. This is different. These are two teams I wished the Bengals modeled themselves after. The best QB of our generation playing on the biggest stage is always special to see. The storylines have been natural and not forced like Big Ben’s Redemption bullshit last year or the Favre cloud. Two cities that don’t like each other. Two teams that have recent issues against each other. I’m firmly behind the Patriots tonight out of personal spite towards certain Giants fans and I suppose I’d like to see Ocho get a ring, even if it comes in the manner in which he has gone about it. Unlike most people, I’m not sensing a classic. We’re long overdue for a “blow out” and I think it happens here, one way or another. I’m taking the Pats over Giants 27-13.
last year I had an interest in the game
an interest to see the Steelers lose…I didnt want to hear about their damn rings all summer…..
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
only reason why i watched. had baltimore made it over new england, i probably would’ve watched simply to see the ratbirds lose.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
yep.
i may not even watch at all, depending on if I have other plans right now.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
It’s going to be a repeat of ‘07 (by which I mean I won’t be watching)
by touchofhysteria on Feb 5, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions
that 07 game was an awesome game
I am not fans of either team and I want the Giants to win because I am tired of the Pats….just tired of Brady and tired of the perennial SB team….I wish it was the Bengals vs the 49rs……how bout that for a repeat of an old Superbowl…..whodey
"Mahmoud, Kim Jong, 86 ya sh__ bitches, or Ima do it fo ya"...Luther...Obama's anger translator
by ticalcaldwell on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I just want to watch
Brady and their coach lose hopefully…. I am never really a fan of a New York team winning in any sport, but in this case it is better than the other guys winning their 4th… I am a little worried about the Giants being overconfident, including their website.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Will never understand
the pointless hatred for Brady. People act like he’s been convicted of felonies, alleged of sexual assaults and other heinous crimes. The worst thing you can say about Brady is that he wears women’s boots.
by KSE on Feb 5, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
It's the underdog roll
I pull for the underdog in 90%.of sports I watch except when my fav is favored.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pats are marginal favorites in Vegas.
Media is hugely behind Giants. It’s a weird game. Everyone is riding the Giants.
by KSE on Feb 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
any player or team that wins all the time
is going to have people start to root against them… they don’’t have to do anything wrong off the field. Just the way it is.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
meant that as a reply to KSE
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Funny stuff!
There’s a video on you tube called shit people in cincinnati say. It’s freakn hilarious. I can’t post the link but if you get a chance check it out.
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 5, 2012 3:43 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I wonder what the point of cutting him the day before was
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 5, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
They brought a defensive guy up from the practice squad
But still, shitty move. That PS guy better play a LOT.
Had to share this with you guys
Last night me and the old lady went on a double date with one of her friends. We get in the car and and ask my girlfriends friends boyfriend (we’ll call him Carson) if he liked the Bengals. He said no he doesn’t watch the NFL. I was like wtf. So I asked Carson do you watch college football he said no he doesn’t like football at all. Needless to say it was a very boring night filled with me reading Cincy Jungle on my phone and not being very social at all. I don’t think we will be going back out with them.
AJ Green = Optimus Prime
Hah! What kind of a man doesn't like football???
I was talking to a Raider fan yesterday evening (had my Bengals hat and hoodie on) and he said something about taking our quarterback. I told him he can have Pick 6 Palmer. He became a bit more subdued then. LOL!
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 5, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Idk what kinda man he was but I assume he likes flowers and things like that. What makes it even funnier is at the restaurant there was a guy sitting next to us who had a Bengals hat and I had a Bengals shirt on and we taled for about 10 min about this season and who we want to draft. Lol
AJ Green = Optimus Prime
You guys planning to stick around, or is everyone partying tonight?
I’m just sitting at home with my family for this one, so I’ll be around.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
me too
gotta be at work at 4 am
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
no matter who wins, someone I really like gets a ring.
If the Pats win, Chad gets a ring. If the Giants win, Moeller grad Greg Jones gets a ring.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
I want to see vintage Chad
Ballin. Circus grabs. Toe tappin on the sideline.
Two teams playing whose colors are red and blue, in a stadium where the home team's color is blue.
And they cover Lucas Oil in Steelers colors.
It’s making me nauseous.
I was wondering where the flag was
Guess the refs decided they better flag Tom for that one since it was so obvious… Who was he throwing to? The ref in the middle of the field?
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 5, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions
Wow what a break for the Giants
that the Patriots had 12 men on the field
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 5, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions
Game time
now or never for the pats
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
defender coulda gone 100 the other way
if he hadn’t run by the ball…
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions
Exactly
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Manning is 9 for 9
could not have been a better start for NY
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 6:58 PM EST reply actions
lol, wasn't sure where Branch came from
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I'd like to see a turnover here
dont want to see a blowout
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
ugh that TD sucked
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Felt like the Giants dominated
But really the saftey is where they scored all there points,its going to be a great second half
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Giants seem
to hurt themselves with that last holding penalty when they were moving… also a too many men in the huddle led to a punt…
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
It is all dink and dunk
doubt they will throw deep
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
I was being sarcastic
Talking heads were saying that Chad was being saved for this game and would suddenly be a big part of the game plan.
gotta cover every angle, lol
there is 2 weeks to talk about everything.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
i cant believe,he cant even get a dink or dunk somewhere
he must just be taking a cb out of the play
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
to much pressure,it will be a play action if anyone get deep
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Looked like History of the World
with Madelyn Kahn
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
what in the hell?
is that dude doing on the tight rope?
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Madonna:
“I’m haven’t written any new music in 20 years so I’ll just steal these LMFAO guys’ song to try to be relevant”
This halftime show is Uncomfortable.
What self-respecting NFL fan is pumped to see Madonna at halftime?
by DonMegga on Feb 5, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that big dude looked like Jamie Dukes from NFL network
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
I'd still do her
Sorry i know ya’ll want to hate,but she is a legend
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I still think Prince was the best
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Those southern guys
With the big black country singer did pretty good
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
cmon Giants
don’t let this happen
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
I do not care about Smash
But I look forward to it starting so these stupid commercials will get off my TV.
When did Brady become religious?
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
My feed from NBC online never started the second half.
“loading…”
Pirated stuff worked way better, but the FBI shut it all down.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions
wow huge recovery
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
that was Bengal playcalling
2nd and 10 from the 12… run play.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
big 3rd down coming
Can’t give them the Pats the ball back at midfield.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
I would love to see Ochocinco
catch the winning TD.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:07 PM EST reply actions
that is 2 tight ends out
may have to come in with a loose one.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
would be a 55 yard field goal from here
would you try it?
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
no
I would rarely kick in these situations. I’d rather go for on 4th.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
better play some D
got only 1 left
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Yep
got jobbed.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
damn
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Giants gettn beat up
All that mouth,and look at him,gettn knocked around
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Both defenses are bending an awful lot
the whole game is dink & dunk — I really dislike this style of play with 85% completions but nothing longer than 20 yards.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:25 PM EST reply actions
only way to beat the pressure
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
they may run the clock out
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
dink,dink,dink
down the field…
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
the downside of this is if New England gets stopped about here
the Giants have time to use the clock up themselves and kick a field goal for the win.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
gotta do it right here
stop them
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
yes
time for Manning to do it again.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Giants can chew up the rest of the clock
and win it … this will be the least exciting last-second game in Super Bowl history.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions
about time somebody went deep!
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
but if they score "too quick"
that might turn out to be not so good…
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
feet are in?
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
i think that is a good catch
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
He’s been a beast in this game doing it on the biggest stage of the game I’d take him
by bnglsfan on Feb 5, 2012 9:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i was thinking the same thing!
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
there's never been a kicker
I’d want to rely on except maybe Vinitieri
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
and a bad snap
against SF on the overtime kick. And a high one on the last FG.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
if they get one more 1st down
can run it down
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
and that challenge
might turn out to have been a case of “why not” being a bad idea. The Pats are going to want to start using their timeouts now.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Pats will use their time outs now
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
fumbled a couple already today
they just got super lucky on those
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Pats fans are saying if they lose it is a failed season
I think they’ve been taking lessons from Bengals fans on how to never be happy.
they have very high standards
and who can blame them.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Players and coaches should have high standards
Fans should be able to appreciate a winning season regardless of how it ends.
now run it twice
and make the Pats use their last time outs.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
then kick a FG
with 15 seconds or so.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
For such a close game, this is boring as shit.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I think they just let him score the td
if he was smart he’d have stopped before going in!
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
wow, using that timeout on the challenge
they got one left now instead of two, Giants can run it down to near zero and kick.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions
wow the let him score play
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Alright, now they let him score.
Smart play by NE. Dumb play by Bradshaw.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
true
but what if you fall down at the 1, and blow the kick.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Take a knee at the one inch line and trust that you're able to run the clock down then score it.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
it's an extra point from there
95% or more probability in your favor.
Giving Brady 1 minute? Is that a 5% chance of losing? If so, then he made a mistake.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Pats have 60 seconds and one timeout
If Brady gets it done he deserves all the praise
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions
well they can't dink and dunk now...
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
wow wide open
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
As long as the Giants win
I’m kind of glad the Pats get a chance to win it and don’t get it done. Tarnishes some of the “legacy”.
1 more play
at least tackle them inbounds.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
or not
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
true!
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
whoa
that was close on that last play!!!!!
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Alright, that was a pretty good game.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
yeah I thought it was pretty boring
lots of luck too (fumbles not recovered by the other guys in particular)… makes it seem pretty random.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, it was worth watching.
Got exciting near the end.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
I thought it was a great game
2011 Year of the Red Rifle
Carson Palmer 2011 Comeback Player of the Year
by Throw the ball on Feb 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
So close
My prediction was 21 – 20 Giants
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 5, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions
Manning is not the best
but he is Mr. Clutch,
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
big play was
missing the Welker connection down the seam on the next to last drive.
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
I guess this does show Brady is not that magical
which is a good thing.
Attention Mike Brown: One-and-done doesn’t cut it. You will see more empty seats next year if you don’t show the fans you’re trying to win the Super Bowl!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Feb 5, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions
So whos up for getting Manningham in FA
Green, Manningham, Shipley, Gresham, and a new RB + Dalton=
2013 SB CHAMPS!
Not consistent enough
2011 Year of the Red Rifle
Carson Palmer 2011 Comeback Player of the Year
by Throw the ball on Feb 5, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, Manningham is not consistent
enough and would not be an upgrade over Simpson.
I still remember the Giants
at 6-6 and down 12 points with 6 minutes to play against Dallas….. just shows the parity in the league….
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Off-season!
Time to build a champion here in Cincy!
by Cincinnati222 on Feb 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Damn straight!!
We’re all going crazy this time next year. Here’s to next years Super Bowl run! WHO DEY!! WHO DEY!! WHO DEY THINK GONNA BEAT THEM BENGALS?
by Bigcatdaddy on Feb 5, 2012 11:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If one damn 9-7 team can win the Super Bowl, so can we.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
We need to learn how to play in big games
Giants understand that, we don’t. Starts with our HC.
A Few Takes on Superbowl as it Applies to Bengals
Just a few quick thoughts on the Superbowl. Brady and Manning are about as clutch as it gets. Great game. What I was thinking watching the closing moments of the game were:
A) We were so close to hiring Tom Coughlin (not that I think Marvin’s doing a bad job).
B) Look how important number two receivers are.
C) You have to have a really clutch QB to win those types of games (and Carson Palmer was not that guy). Remains to be seen whether or not Dalton is.
D) Critical calls mean all the difference. Giants overcame the Patriots Brady / Bellichik mistique by having several key calls go against them yet they still won. Phantom hold on the one drive reminded me of the call against Whitworth against the Steelers. Boothe did not hold. Hopefully, if we start winning consistently, we start getting the types of calls the Patriots and Steelers typically get.
Ain't it funny when referees actually call penalties?
The pats had 2 penalties called against them vs. the Broncos
The pats had 1 penalty called against them vs. the Ravens
(both games were played in NE)
The pats had 5 penalties called against them vs. the Giants
I am not sure if the safety is counted in those 5 penalties, that was A BIG call to make. It was the right call, but it took b@lls by that crew to actually make that call..I could easily see it as being not called for one bs reason or another….
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