Offseason plan with salary cap
I know we’ve seen 1,362 proposed offseason "plans" already but I still feel compelled to put my two cents in, especially since I feel like you have to look at the cap impact of all of this. The roster count with this list would be 62 which means we'd have our 53 active roster and 8-man PS solved with the remaining slots filled via injury replacements, etc.
Holes on the 2012 roster:
Starters: WR, both OG positions, RB, SLB, FS, K, possibly CB (depending upon Leon Hall’s health)
Reserves: WE, both DT positions, DE, CB
Players resigned (with 2012 cap budget and rank amongst position cap):
K Mike Nugent ($3.25M, 6th)
DT Jonathan Fanene ($3.5M, 33rd)
DE Frostee Rucker ($3M, 36th)
SLB Manny Lawson ($3.75M, 45th)
OT Anthony Collins ($2M, 92nd, note: moved to RG)
FS Reggie Nelson ($4.5M, 15th)
TE Donald Lee or Bo Scaife ($0.75M, 32nd)
RFAs LB Dan Skuta, FB Chris Pressley, LS Clark Harris ($1.26M each)
Free agent options (with cap budget and rank amongst position cap):
WR ($4-5M = top 16-25): Robert Meachem, Mario Manningham, Pierre Garcon
RB ($5-6M = top 9-10): Michael Bush, Marshawn Lynch
Players released (cap savings):
S Chris Crocker (-$2M, production has really dropped off)
DE Robert Geathers (-$4.4M, still productive but have excellent 6-man rotation even without him)
Draft:
1a SS Mark Barron Alabama (starts opposite Reggie Nelson)
1b OG Cordy Glenn Georgia (starts at LG, moves to RT in 2013 if Andre Smith not resigned)
2 CB Brandon Boykin Georgia (a little short at 5090 good speed and provides options in return game)
3 RB Chris Polk Washington (he’s rated higher but I think he’ll end up dropping plus need isn’t great if we sign a FA RB)
4 WR Tommy Streeter Miami (Fla.)
5-7 TBD but likely DT, TE, DE, RB
With the players resigned, free agents acquired and the draft picks, we should add approx. $34.3M to our cap. We are currently at $83.9M which puts us at $118.2M giving us an estimated $7.4M in room under the projected cap. This fits well into the Mike Brown budgeting plan and doesn’t rely on crazy Daniel Snyder "what if" dream scenarios of signing guys who we can’t afford or don’t want to play in Cincinnati. Side note: we finished 2011 with $17.6M in cap room so this is a pretty big shift, but I think the combination of making the playoffs with this roster, no fans in the stands and Marvin Lewis having more "control" might shift the balance some.
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This should go on the front page.
Well done. Very accurate and thought out. I did the same process earlier on twitter without looking up the actually salary averages. I guess I’m not that surprised I was right on target. Thanks for doing this.
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 7, 2012 2:28 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The only thing I dont like
Is there isnt a lot of emphasis put on the corner back position.
by EPK1979 on Feb 7, 2012 2:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Boykin, from what I've seen and pending how his broken leg heals, would be a good CB pickup
and adding Barron at the safety position could potentially help the CBs, if he’s the player people are saying he is.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Feb 7, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
what more do you want?
IF Hall comes back ready to go, you have two solid CBs in him and Clements along with a good young CB in Boykin. I could see Jones coming back given his lack of options. He’s a solid backup and great PR; he just got exposed as a starter when Hall went down.
The draft doesn’t have much depth at CB, so I don’t think it’s wise to reach for one in the 1st. Besides, if Barron is as good as I think he is, two quality safeties will offset the somewhat weaker CB position.
by bengaljohnboy on Feb 7, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
You didnt have Jones on the resign list
Thats why I questioned it. Just for depth reasons.
by EPK1979 on Feb 7, 2012 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also
I guess the IF question with Hall bothers me more than a lot of people. To the point I think where I think more db’s should be added. We dont know what we have in Ghee and Clements is older and seems to wear down later in the year.
by EPK1979 on Feb 7, 2012 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is the wild card this offseason
IF he’s not ready to play, we’ll have to pay for a 3rd starting CB (in addition to the money we have in Hall and Clements) plus stick to the plan to develop young talent to take over for Clements in 2013. Cortland Finnegan and Brent Grimes are the cream of the crop but neither get me too excited – this isn’t like the 2011 CB UFA talent. Carlos Rogers would be a decent stop-gap but his performance in SF will make him too expensive relative to future value.
by bengaljohnboy on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
If you're not resigning Pat Sims, then I think they'll need to sign or draft a DT
But great work with this! Thanks for going the extra mile and working out the budget.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 7, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions
I love Pat, but...
I think we can save some money by bringing in a mid- to low-round draft pick to be the 4th DT (Fanene being the 3rd). Sims will attract some big money but not the same playing time with Atkins really performing at a high level right now. Pat lives across from my friends in Ft. Mitchell and he’s been a fun guy to hang with, but I just don’t see him making this team next year.
by bengaljohnboy on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
How Do Teams Beat The Bengals.
Easy. They stop the run and dare Dalton to win the game.
Dalton needs all the help he can get.
Who would Andy select if he was GM?
Who is the one guy that can make a difference?
Time is all. The guy who can give Andy time to plant and throw trumps all.
What more can a QB ask for?
Maybe a running game to take the load off?
Who does Zimmer want?
Zimmer has needs also. Who does Zimmer want?
Does the want of Dalton trump the want of Zimmer?
True or not. The Bengals must deside if they are playing for now or building for the future.
If the Bengals want to play hand to mouth, find a way to give Andy time to QB.
If the Bengals want to win in three years, grap guys who FORCE a team to Gameplan for Fear!
Bengal Thought. How can we handle Ray and Ed?
Bals thought. Bengals dont have Fear Guys! Gameplan is simple. Stop Cincys Run Game and then Dalton must play QB without a run game!
AJ Green is the exception!
Are the Bengals willing to find players who can bring FEAR?
Next guy in must bring it!.
Will the Bengals find a way to Sell Tickets or will the Bengals draft for 2014?!
Just do it Bengals. Find Fear Guys who can change gameplans!?
Bengals are Weak with Fear? Who can say other?
by Chili Dog on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
2011 cap carryover
I should also mention that the $17.6M in cap room from last year can be applied to our 2012 providing for even more options. The team has used this mechanism before but it also has let major cap room die in the year it was created. We’ll see what shakes out soon enough…

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