TEMPE, AZ - SEPTEMBER 24: Vontaze Burfict #7 of the Arizona State Sun Devils points and yells at quarterback Matt Barkley #7 of the University of Southern California Trojans just prior to a play at Sun Devil Stadium on September 24, 2011 in Tempe, Arizona. (Photo by Norm Hall/Getty Images)
[Note from Josh Kirkendall: There has been some issues with the community lately, so our moderators wanted to remind everyone, especially the newer people that have recently joined our corner of the world, what we expect out of that community that has been so awesome for so long, allowing for discourse to continue. Here's a post written by UpStateMike -- who threatened to ban me if I didn't get it online soon]
I’ve been on bulletin boards for a long time, as in Windows NT long. Suffice to say, I’ve witnessed a wide range of them, from strict corporate sites to no-holds-barred individually run boards. One of my other passions is about cigars. I think a good cigar and glass of scotch can make almost any day better, regardless of physical and mental damage caused by in-laws or children. When I first got into cigars, I found bulletin boards to be an invaluable resource of information and entertainment. I thought ‘What better way was there to learn than from other diehard fans of what I love?’
And then… there is Larry.
Larry knows his cigars. His vast cigar collection rivals many shops. But Larry loves being antagonistic. Larry is a troll. Bar none, I have NEVER encountered a more complete and polished troll better than Larry. He is a legend. He rarely started a thread, but was often early to comment. If someone posted a review on a cheap, hidden gem, Larry’s reaction was "You guys smoke a lot of crap!" Someone (inevitably) defends the author, and Larry fires off another shot. Others soon joined in while Larry’s remarks got more elaborate. He’d quote older comments contradicting what they wrote. He loved it. The regulars would pop some corn whenever a newbie asked a question asked "one too many times". I tell you it was an amazing spectacle to behold, but what was fun for a while soon gets old fast. Not everyone sees his wit and thinks it’s cute. You can only show off so many times before you get labeled a troll, and site owners and moderators HATE Larry.
We do not wish to watch this happen here at Cincy Jungle. It only hurts the charm and flow, and it won’t be tolerated. When you recognize it happening don’t add to it just ignore it. Trust me. We’re wise to the situation. If you are the one enjoying getting our members worked up, please move on or prepare to get banned. Don’t be Larry.
Blame it on the off-season and lack of NFL News, but there’s been a rash of in-fighting here lately, and we wanted to re-post the Rules and Guidelines, as it’s high time to get back to talking football, and we want everyone to feel welcome to enter into the discussion! Now… onto the rules and guidelines!
RULES: Actions that will bring immediate reaction, enforcement, if not a permanent ban. These are the rules you HAVE to abide by.
- No Personal Attacks. Personal attacks will invite immediate warnings towards all parties, which could also lead to an entire FanPost being deleted. This is our way of saying, "naughty, children." If one person attacks another, and that person retaliates, both will be warned without consideration of who started what. If someone personally attacks you, ignore it or contact a moderator or administration. We'll deal with it. We're not going to be put in the position of defending someone because they are our friend, or because they've been here longer when they are in the wrong. We have no patience for internet tough guys. Failure to heed warnings on personal attacks could lead to a permanent ban. However, there will be some level of tolerance (alright, a lot) for readers defending the site or other users from trolls.
- Any comment(s) that could be considered offensive related to race, religion and/or gender will lead to an immediate ban without warning. This is just common sense and if you lack the common sense to apply this rule, then you really don't belong here.
- If you're a troll (and that's anyone purposely disrupting the community even IF you're a Bengals fan), then you're gone.
- Reduce the Profanity. This is more of a favor to and from the community who spend our waking hours on the site -- hence the use of "reasonable". Considering the usage and infraction is largely subjective to the reader, we typically allow moderate use of cursing in open threads. However, as a favor, use less of the one-worded curses in reaction to a bad play in the open threads. Because so many read through the comments, while not actually commenting themselves, we'd prefer the reduction of curses across the board if possible.
GUIDELINES FOR FANPOSTS: Remember that these are guidelines and, save for a few, are not rules that will result with immediate disciplinary action. And in truth, a lot of these guidelines are twofold:
- Help make Cincy Jungle's FanPosts more streamlined and
- Help you get maximum reaction, comments and debate with your own FanPosts.
- Clear Titles. Make the title of FanPosts constructive and clear. Things like "Player supporters can suck it" are not constructive, if not reason for reactionary attitudes that makes your overall point trivial in appearance with many simply looking past it because of the juvenile nature in the title. Also, titles like "Bengals" or "Cincinnati Bengals" are not clear. This is sort of the overall theme of the site. Oh, and for the love of god, don't use all Caps for titles. It just looks tacky and people might view the author as being off-kilter, not taking the discussion seriously.
- Make Sure Another FanPost Isn't Similar To What You Plan To Write. If you create a FanPost to vent, make sure it's not the same as another poster venting the exact same things. Multiple FanPosts about the same thing will likely see one of the two deleted depending on the reaction from other readers, the number of recommendations and/or which was posted first. The best example of this is Bob Bratkowski. Rather than having 10 different FanPosts that say the same thing, keep it in one FanPost. That way when others have a different FanPost, then that FanPost isn't buried under a mountain of anger about a single issue.
- Keep Comments On Track. Try to keep comments close to the topic of the post or of the FanPost. If there’s news on a subject that we haven’t posted about yet, or if you have a generalized question outside of the post's topic, then don’t tell us in the comments of the latest posting. Create a FanPost; that’s a big reason of why they're there. There will be instances if a comment is off-topic that we'll simply delete it. If you want to generate a topic for discussion that we're not providing, create a FanPost.
- No Self Promotion. If you're promoting your own website, expect the link/URL to be removed. Contact us directly and we'll work something out with you. You can go a long way working with us to promote your work rather than spamming our site. However, if you create a username only to promote your website, expect to have the FanPost, your comments removed, as well as a possible ban. Contrary to popular belief from other Bengal "fan" sites, we're not a repository for promoting other sites. We have no problem promoting your site if you contact us directly.
- Spelling and Grammar.This is mostly to help you generate discussion inside your own FanPosts. I'm by no means a grammar master and I depend far too much with spell check programs. However, bad spelling and grammar can make people focus on your mistakes rather than your content. Try to avoid easy mistakes and use a spell checker when you can. You want to debate the content, not what words you misspelled.
- Keep Great FanPosts On-Going. If there's a great FanPost that you want to keep inside the Recommended FanPosts so its easily reachable and always on-going, Recommend ("REC") that FanPost. Once a FanPost gets a certain amount of Recommendations, it will be categorized as a Recommended FanPost and listed above all FanPosts on the right.
- Be Respectful In Ask A Question Posts. Sometimes opposing blogs will throw up a FanPost to answer our questions about this week's opposing team. Ask your question, but do not instigate a petty diatribe of the opposing team that will turn into a trivial and petty response from all parties. These people are NOT trolls. They are using their own free time to inform you on the team we're facing. The least you can do is be respectful to those people and talk about the game.
- Etiquette For Promoting Other Articles. If you find an article online you'd like to share with the community, there's etiquette attached to this that's both respectful for the author's original work, as well as not making Cincy Jungle liable for copyrighting issues. Always use Blockquotes (the quotations button in the editor board) and never copy and paste the entire article. A paragraph is about the maximum that we're allowed and always leave a link back to the original article. If you do not properly source the article and we can't find the article to fix your FanPost, the entire FanPost could be deleted.