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AFC QBs: First Three Years Data

Charles LeClaire-USA TODAY Sport

Just for fun, I thought it would be cool to take the first three years of Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, and Big Ben data to compare.

Since there is much debate of where we think our franchise is headed with Dalton. I looked at the statistics of all the franchise QBs in the AFC North.

Big Games: Division and Playoff games

Flacco

DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT QBR RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2008
Sun 9/7 vs W 17-10 15 29 129 51.70 4.45 15.00 0 0 53.10 63.70 4 37 9.30 38 1
CIN
Sun 9/21 vs W 28-10 13 19 129 68.40 6.79 19.00 0 2 32.50 47.80 6 -2 -0.30 2 0
CLE
Mon 9/29 @ L 20-23 (OT) 16 31 192 51.60 6.19 35.00 1 0 26.40 81.70 2 -1 -0.50 0 0
PIT
Sun 11/2 @ W 37-27 17 29 248 58.60 8.55 47.00 2 0 64.20 109.60 4 2 0.50 2 0
CLE
Sun 11/30 @ W 34-3 19 29 280 65.50 9.66 70.00 2 0 91.70 119.90 3 15 5.00 11 0
CIN
Sun 12/14 vs L 9-13 11 28 115 39.30 4.11 24.00 0 2 5.30 22.20 1 5 5.00 5 0
PIT
Sun 1/4 @ W 27-9 9 23 135 39.10 5.87 31.00 0 0 50.60 59.10 5 8 1.60 5 1
MIA
Sat 1/10 @ W 13-10 11 22 161 50.00 7.32 48.00 1 0 67.80 89.40 5 5 1.00 3 0
TEN
Sun 1/18 @ L 14-23 13 30 141 43.30 4.70 22.00 0 3 6.70 18.20 2 -8 -4.00 0 0
PIT
2008 Flacco 124 240 1530 51.94 6.40 34.56 6 7 44.26 67.96 32 61 1.96 7.33 2
2009
Sun 9/27 vs W 34-3 25 35 342 71.40 9.77 72.00 1 0 88.40 111.80 2 5 2.50 3 0
CLE
Sun 10/11 vs L 14-17 22 31 186 71.00 6.00 48.00 1 2 39.80 70.10 1 9 9.00 9 0
CIN
Sun 11/8 @ L 7-17 18 32 195 56.30 6.09 35.00 0 2 8.80 48.30 2 3 1.50 2 0
CIN
Mon 11/16 @ W 16-0 13 18 155 72.20 8.61 41.00 0 0 48.70 98.10 1 -6 -6.00 -6 0
CLE
Sun 11/29 vs W 20-17 (OT) 23 35 289 65.70 8.26 54.00 1 0 51.20 100.80 1 -2 -2.00 -2 0
PIT
Sun 12/27 @ L 20-23 13 25 166 52.00 6.64 30.00 2 1 34.80 83.10 0 0 0.00 0 0
PIT
Sun 1/10 @ W 33-14 4 10 34 40.00 3.40 17.00 0 1 16.10 10.00 6 5 0.80 7 0
NE
Sat 1/16 @ L 3-20 20 35 189 57.10 5.40 27.00 0 2 18.50 48.40 1 2 2.00 2 0
IND
2009 Flacco 138 221 1556 60.71 6.77 40.50 5 8 38.29 71.33 14 16 0.98 1.88 0
2010
Sun 9/19 @ L 10-15 17 39 154 43.60 3.95 31.00 1 4 9.20 23.80 3 9 3.00 8 0
CIN
Sun 9/26 vs W 24-17 22 31 262 71.00 8.45 34.00 3 0 89.90 128.70 4 -4 -1.00 -1 0
CLE
Sun 10/3 @ W 17-14 24 37 256 64.90 6.92 40.00 1 1 65.80 82.70 2 1 0.50 2 0
PIT
Sun 12/5 vs L 10-13 17 33 266 51.50 8.06 67.00 1 0 48.70 88.70 3 15 5.00 14 0
PIT
Mon 12/13 @ W 34-28 (OT) 22 33 235 66.70 7.12 26.00 2 0 59.50 107.50 0 0 0.00 0 0
HOU
Sun 12/26 @ W 20-10 12 19 102 63.20 5.37 22.00 2 1 90.00 90.20 3 16 5.30 13 0
CLE
Sun 1/2 vs W 13-7 14 19 125 73.70 6.58 37.00 0 1 14.20 69.00 3 1 0.30 3 0
CIN
Sun 1/9 @ W 30-7 25 34 265 73.50 7.79 28.00 2 0 62.10 115.40 7 26 3.70 13 0
KC
Sat 1/15 @ L 24-31 16 30 125 53.30 4.17 21.00 1 1 18.50 61.10 2 -1 -0.50 0 0
PIT
2010 Flacco 169 275 1790 62.38 6.49 34.00 13 8 50.88 85.23 27 63 1.81 5.78 0

Big Ben

DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2004
Sun 9/19 @ L 13-30 12 20 176 60.00 8.80 58.00 2 2 82.50 0 0 0 0 0
BAL
Sun 10/3 vs W 28-17 17 25 174 68.00 6.96 30.00 1 0 101.10 4 2 0.5 3 0
CIN
Sun 10/10 vs W 34-23 16 21 231 76.20 11.00 48.00 1 1 107.40 6 13 2.2 9 1
CLE
Sun 11/14 @ W 24-10 10 16 134 62.50 8.38 22.00 0 1 63.00 7 38 5.4 20 0
CLE
Sun 11/21 @ W 19-14 15 21 138 71.40 6.57 26.00 1 0 104.90 9 16 1.8 4 0
CIN
Sun 12/26 vs W 20-7 14 19 221 73.70 11.63 36.00 2 1 125.10 2 11 5.5 9 0
BAL
Sat 1/15 vs W 20-17 (OT) 17 30 181 56.70 6.03 21.00 1 2 57.80 4 30 7.5 20 0
NYJ
Sun 1/23 vs L 27-41 14 24 226 58.30 9.42 34.00 2 3 78.10 5 45 9 13 0
NE
2004 Big Ben 115 176 1481 526.80 8.60 34.38 10 10 89.99 37 155 3.988 9.75 1
2005
Sun 10/23 @ W 27-13 9 14 93 64.30 6.64 21.00 2 1 93.20 4 -5 -1.3 -1 0
CIN
Mon 10/31 vs W 20-19 18 30 177 60.00 5.90 23.00 2 1 85.00 4 4 1 3 0
BAL
Sun 12/4 vs L 31-38 29 41 386 70.70 9.42 41.00 3 3 94.20 1 2 2 2 0
CIN
Sat 12/24 @ W 41-0 13 20 226 65.00 11.30 46.00 1 0 120.00 0 0 0 0 0
CLE
Sun 1/8 @ W 31-17 14 19 208 73.70 10.95 54.00 3 0 148.70 4 3 0.8 6 0
CIN
Sun 1/15 @ W 21-18 14 24 197 58.30 8.21 45.00 2 1 95.30 5 -3 -0.6 1 0
IND
Sun 1/22 @ W 34-17 21 29 275 72.40 9.48 30.00 2 0 124.90 3 12 4 6 1
DEN
Sun 2/5 vs W 21-10 9 21 123 42.90 5.86 37.00 0 2 22.60 7 25 3.6 10 1
SEA
2005 Big Ben 127 198 1685 63.41 67.76 37.13 15 8 97.99 28 38 1.19 3.38 2
2006
DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT QBR RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG
Sun 9/24 vs L 20-28 18 39 208 46.20 5.33 36.00 0 3 19.00 30.70 1 -1 -1 -1
CIN
Sun 11/19 @ W 24-20 25 44 272 56.80 6.18 23.00 2 3 30.30 61.90 2 20 10 13
CLE
Sun 11/26 @ L 0-27 21 41 214 51.20 5.22 27.00 0 2 6.30 46.20 1 -1 -1 -1
BAL
Thu 12/7 vs W 27-7 11 21 225 52.40 10.71 49.00 1 0 91.40 106.20 3 4 1.3 3
CLE
Sun 12/24 vs L 7-31 15 31 156 48.40 5.03 31.00 1 2 15.70 47.20 4 33 8.3 20
BAL
Sun 12/31 @ W 23-17 (OT) 19 28 280 67.90 10.00 67.00 1 1 87.30 97.30 3 16 5.3 11
CIN
2006 Big Ben 109 204 1355 53.82 7.08 38.83 5 11 41.67 64.92 14 71 3.82 7.5

Dalton

DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT QBR RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2011
Sun 9/11 @ W 27-17 10 15 81 66.70 5.40 22.00 1 0 40.90 102.40 0 0 0.00 0.00 0
CLE
Sun 11/13 vs L 17-24 15 30 170 50.00 5.67 36.00 2 2 28.90 61.80 0 0 0.00 0.00 0
PIT
Sun 11/20 @ L 24-31 24 45 373 53.30 8.29 49.00 1 3 47.80 60.70 4 32 8.00 11.00 0
BAL
Sun 11/27 vs W 23-20 21 31 270 67.70 8.71 51.00 1 0 51.80 105.60 6 23 3.80 7.00 0
CLE
Sun 12/4 @ L 7-35 11 24 135 45.80 5.63 43.00 1 0 31.60 77.60 2 6 3.00 4.00 0
PIT
Sun 1/1 vs L 16-24 22 44 232 50.00 5.27 31.00 0 0 36.10 65.70 4 17 4.30 13.00 0
BAL
Sat 1/7 @ L 10-31 27 42 257 64.30 6.12 36.00 0 3 25.10 51.40 3 17 5.70 15.00 0
HOU
2011 ANDY 130 231 1518 56.83 6.44 38.29 6 8 37.46 75.03 19 95 3.54 7.14 0
2012
Mon 9/10 @ L 13-44 22 37 221 59.50 5.97 27.00 0 1 15.50 65.30 3 11 3.70 6.00 0
BAL
Sun 9/16 vs W 34-27 24 31 318 77.40 10.26 50.00 3 1 78.50 128.20 3 4 1.30 3.00 0
CLE
Sun 10/14 @ L 24-34 31 46 381 67.40 8.28 57.00 3 3 35.90 87.30 2 5 2.50 3.00 0
CLE
Sun 10/21 vs L 17-24 14 28 105 50.00 3.75 17.00 1 1 16.00 56.40 1 -1 -1.00 -1.00 0
PIT
Sun 12/23 @ W 13-10 24 41 278 58.50 6.78 25.00 0 2 31.20 58.80 0 0 0.00 0.00 0
PIT
Sun 12/30 vs W 23-17 10 15 78 66.70 5.20 17.00 1 0 27.80 101.50 2 4 2.00 3.00 0
BAL
Sat 1/5 @ L 13-19 14 30 127 46.70 4.23 45.00 0 1 15.10 44.70 4 15 3.80 12.00 0
HOU
2012 ANDY 139 228 1508 60.89 6.35 34.00 8 9 31.43 77.46 15 38 1.76 3.71 0
2013
Mon 9/16 vs W 20-10 25 45 280 55.60 6.22 61.00 1 0 39.50 81.70 3 10 3.30 4.00 0
PIT
Sun 9/29 @ L 6-17 23 42 206 54.80 4.91 29.00 0 1 29.70 58.20 4 13 3.30 10.00 0
CLE
Sun 11/10 @ L 17-20 (OT) 24 51 274 47.10 5.37 51.00 2 3 17.30 52.30 6 22 3.70 12.00 0
BAL
Sun 11/17 vs W 41-20 13 27 93 48.10 3.44 25.00 3 2 3.70 62.70 4 0 0.00 1.00 0
CLE
Sun 12/15 @ L 20-30 25 44 230 56.80 5.23 19.00 2 0 47.20 86.40 4 20 5.00 9.00 0
PIT
Sun 12/29 vs W 34-17 21 36 281 58.30 7.81 53.00 2 4 56.50 62.20 6 23 3.80 9.00 1
BAL
Sun 1/5 vs L 10-27 29 51 334 56.90 6.55 49.00 1 2 14.20 67.00 5 26 5.20 12.00 0
SD
2013 ANDY 160 296 1698 53.94 5.65 41.00 11 12 29.73 67.21 32 114 3.47 8.14 1

Here is a more compressed look at the data with all the Qbs sorted by QB rating.

YEAR QB CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2005 Big Ben 127 198 1685 63.41 67.76 37.13 15 8 97.99 28 38 1.19 3.38 2
2004
Big Ben 115 176 1481 526.80 8.60 34.38 10 10 89.99 37 155 3.99 9.75 1
2010 Flacco 169 275 1790 62.38 6.49 34.00 13 8 85.23 27 63 1.81 5.78 0
2012 Dalton 139 228 1508 60.89 6.35 34.00 8 9 77.46 15 38 1.76 3.71 0
2011 Dalton 130 231 1518 56.83 6.44 38.29 6 8 75.03 19 95 3.54 7.14 0
2009 Flacco 138 221 1556 60.71 6.77 40.50 5 8 71.33 14 16 0.98 1.88 0
2008
Flacco 124 240 1530 51.94 6.40 34.56 6 7 67.96 32 61 1.96 7.33 2
2013 Dalton 160 296 1698 53.94 5.65 41.00 11 12 67.21 32 114 3.47 8.14 1
2006 Big Ben 109 204 1355 53.82 7.08 38.83 5 11 64.92 14 71 3.82 7.50 1

REGUALAR (first 3 years) Average of full seasons combined
REG Tot CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
BB* Reg 644 1032 8519 62.93 8.43 70.00 52 43 90.70 119 311 2.63 16.50 6
JF* REG 878 1416 10206 61.90 7.20 69.67 60 34 87.60 130 320 2.37 20.67 3
Andy 992 1630 11360 60.77 6.96 75.00 80 49 85.53 145 455 3.23 15.33 7

*BB = Big Ben

*JF= Joe Flacco

Ben's first three years....

REG Tot CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2004 196 295 2,621 66.4 8.89 58 17 11 98.1 56 144 2.60 20 1
2005 168 268 2,385 62.7 8.9 85 17 9 98.6 31 69 2.20 13 3
2006 280 469 3,513 59.7 7.49 67 18 23 75.4 32 98 3.10 20 2

Joe's first three years....

REG Tot CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2008 257 428 2,971 60.00 6.94 70 14 12 80.3 52 180 3.5 38 2
2009 315 499 3,613 63.10 7.24 72 21 12 88.9 35 56 1.6 10 0
2010 306 489 3,622 62.60 7.41 67 25 10 93.6 43 84 2 14 1

Andy's first three years...

REG Tot CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2011 300 516 3,398 58.1 6.59 84 20 13 80.4 37 152 4.1 17 1
2012 329 528 3,669 62.3 6.95 59 27 16 87.4 47 120 2.6 17 4
2013 363 586 4,293 61.9 7.33 82 33 20 88.8 61 183 3 12 2

You can see where there is an upward trend for Joe and Andy, but there is downward trend for Ben, int their first three years.

4th QTR stats-

4th Qtr- First Three years stats
CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2011 Andy 68 136 872 50.00 6.41 84.00 3 6 5 59.40 19 71 3.70 13.00 1
2012 Andy 80 125 971 64.00 7.77 59.00 9 5 13 95.10 16 8 0.50 12.00 1
2013 Andy 70 109 872 64.20 8.00 51.00 7 4 8 95.00 21 36 1.70 12.00 2
Total Andy 218 370 2715 59.40 7.39 64.67 19 15 26 83.17 56 115 1.97 12.33 4
2004 Ben 50 65 596 76.90 9.17 58.00 4 1 7 118.50 31 15 0.50 20.00 0
2005 Ben 33 57 395 57.90 6.93 35.00 3 3 6 74.80 12 8 0.70 13.00 0
2006 Ben 90 157 1,118 57.30 7.12 63.00 4 11 13 58.80 8 47 5.90 20.00 0
Total Ben 173 279 2109 64.03 7.74 52.00 11 15 26 84.03 51 70 2.37 17.67 0
2008 Joe 54 83 648 65.10 7.81 54.00 4 3 6 89.80 18 -11 -0.60 12.00 1
2009 Joe 79 125 1,058 63.20 8.46 72.00 7 5 14 92.00 7 -2 -0.30 2.00 0
2010 Joe 68 106 735 64.20 6.93 36.00 4 2 7 89.20 17 -4 -0.20 3.00 0
Joe 201 314 2441 64.17 7.73 54.00 15 10 27 90.33 42 -17 -0.37 5.67 1

POST Season (First 3 years) Average

Post Tot CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
BB F3* POST 45 73 615 62.90 8.80 36.33 6 5 94.87 13 78 5.77 13.00 0
Ben Post 89 147 1210 59.90 8.09 44.00 10 8 81.50 28 112 5.10 15.00 2
Joe Post 98 184 1050 53.80 16.88 34.33 4 7 60.07 28 37 1.40 8.33 1
JF F3* POST 33 75 437 44.13 5.96 33.67 1 3 55.57 12 5.00 -0.47 2.67 1
Andy Post 70 123 718 55.97 5.63 43.33 1 6 54.37 12 58 4.90 13.00 0

F3= First 3 post season games

Finally, career total stats.

Career











Player GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
Ben 143 2,749 4,346 63.3 34,105 7.85 219 95 122 49 -- 92.6
Andy 48 992 1,630 60.9 11,360 6.97 80 84 49 10 51.5 85.7
Joe 96 1,869 3,103 60.2 21,545 6.94 121 74 78 42 51.2 83.7

I can sort these numbers in a different way, just let me know.

This was sparked by how we perceive our QB and how he performs in big games.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors.

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