What's the Salary Cap hit if the Bengals trade Chad Johnson?
So reader MP45242 wondered what the salary cap would be if the Bengals decided to trade Chad Johnson. First, I needed to know what is hit when a team trades a player. A bit of history. When the Redskins put Laveranues Coles on the trading block:
So the cap hit would seem to figure on that player's prorated signing bonus.
John Clayton writes:
So we accelerate the signing bonus to the year that the player was traded, from my understanding. Johnson signed a six-year deal in 2006 (actually five years with sixth year being an option) giving him $35.5 million. In that piece, it says Chad's contract includes a $5 million signing bonus. Since 2006 and 2007 are finished, we need to take that prorated bonus and apply it for four seasons -- adding $3.3 million against the cap next season.
But what about dead money? I hear that term a lot and don't understand why it's often described in a different breath that simply a cap hit. Well, there's nothing different about it, according to this San Francisco Gate piece.
Here's how it works:
Signing bonuses are prorated over the length of a contract for salary-cap purposes. If a player leaves the team before his contract expires, the remaining prorated portion of the bonus is counted immediately, in a lump sum, against the cap.For example, when the 49ers got rid of Jeff Garcia following the 2003 season, they had to account for about $10 million of signing bonus previously paid to him but not yet counted against the cap.
That is known as "dead money."So if we're specifically speaking about Chad Johnson's prorated signing bonus over the life of his existing contract, then we're looking at the mid-three million range.
Here's my questions. Do we worry about roster, workout, reporting and option bonuses? I tend to think no, simply because that's not considered signing bonuses as per the above references. But if it does, as calculated by go-Bengals.com in "dead money", that would make the cap hit reach near or over $17 million in 2008. However, to me, that doesn't calculate to that number simply by taking his prorated signing bonus over the contracts life -- which we figured above.
Furthermore, his salary cap value is an additional $3 million per season over his base salary -- which typically means the prorated portion of the contract. Figured into that, then the $17 million cap hit is more realistic. What exactly those amortized bonuses are, I'm not sure.
Geoff Hobson made reference of a hit being between $5-7 million in a early January mail response talking about the negatives of trading Johnson.
So, in conclusion, the hit could be in the mid $3 million range. Or between $5-7 million. Or as much as $17 million. In conclusion, we really didn't learn much, did we?
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by mp45242 on Feb 1, 2008 10:48 AM EST 0 recs
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2008 - $3.0 million
2009 - $4.5 million
2010 - $5.0 million
2011 - $6.0 million (option year)
It might hurt 2008, but in the long run, the team stands to gain rather than lose. And I don't think any of us expect 2008 to be a Super Bowl season -- especially if Chad does indeed leave losing a big-time threat offensively.
I'm not saying that's their thinking, but there is some logic in that mindset.
by Kirkendall on Feb 1, 2008 11:21 AM EST 0 recs
The only thing that matters...
Per the go-bengals numbers, there is still about $13 million worth of signing bonuses to be written off. If Chad were to be cut/traded, that $13 million would accelerate and hit the cap in 2008. UNLESS the Bengals designate Chad as a "June 1" cut, which would allow the hit to be spread out over two years, $6.5 million in 2008 and again in 2009.
Now...all that has to be considered in light of the cap hit if the Bengals KEEP Chad. His cap number next year, adding a little to the go-bengals number, will be around $8 million.
So...if the Bengals cut/trade Chad, worst-case scenario is a NET cap hit of about $5 million -- in a year when the Benals are coming into the free agency period with something on the order of $28 million in cap space.
If they split the hit over 2 years as a June 1 cut, the Bengals will actually GAIN something like $1.5 million in cap space in 2008.
Again, this all assumes the guy at go-bengals is accurate. Caveat emptor.
by BeerRun on Feb 1, 2008 6:48 PM EST 0 recs
Another consideration
Happens every day right?
I'm a Denver fan, so we are dealing with issues with Javon Walker right now. Like Chad he has doozy of a contract to deal with, like Chad he is a great WR, like Chad he is obviously unhappy with his current situation.
But that begs the question of would they mind trading places? I think Javon would be happy in CIN, though he would have to realistically expect to be second fiddle to TJ, but he would have an experienced deep throwing QB and a spread attack to be a key part of.
Would Chad consider Denver a likely destination? It doesn't seem likely, for the same reasons Javon wants out, since we ask our receivers to play second fiddle to our running game, and they need to love getting physical and blocking. But he could fit in two other ways: 1)Denver (re: shanny) doesn't mind an outspoken WR, as long as the rules are honored and the team isn't put behind the 8-ball with his antics. For reference see Shannon Sharpe and now Brandon Marshall. Both produced first than talked later, rarely geting the team in trouble. 2) This year was a sort of anomaly for us, and though we didn't deserve to make the postseason, we were already addressing our issues as the final games were being played. We have some questions going into next year, but the opinion of the well-informed Broncos fan is that 09 is a championship run, and Chad might just recognize that.
On the other side of the coin again, Denver hasn't had a great relationship with Rosenhaus, but they are all professionals, and if the deal was something worth pursuing I'm sure they could hammer something out...
by styg50 on Feb 1, 2008 8:12 PM EST 0 recs
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But who knows.
First thing that will have to happen from Denver's perspective -- and this is interesting considering Bowlen's comments about his regret over the existing CBA -- is that they'll have to rework Chad's contract and give him a new one.
Considering that there's a real chance that the owners will opt out making 2010 (I think) an uncapped year, I'm not sure if anyone will hand a contract to Chad right now.
Again, who knows.
by Kirkendall on Feb 2, 2008 2:13 PM EST 0 recs
The real issue...
The Bengals couldn't find a wideout to replace our No. 3, Henry, for just eight games, so I don't have a great deal of faith in their ability to run around and find a new No. 1 the very next season.
Moreover, the Bengals have had almost no luck developing WRs in the Marvin era. They have spent two 3rd round picks (Henry, Washington), a 5th (Mann) two 6ths (Tab and McNeal) and a 7th (Brazell) -- and shelled out FA dollars for Chatman to boot. Out of all that, only Henry can be called anything close to a success, and he's one traffic stop away from another suspension.
by BeerRun on Feb 2, 2008 2:30 PM EST 0 recs
Henry
It's just another reason why the Bengals won't let him go.
In fact, I could see a more likely scenario develop that the Bengals will give in to Chad's contractual demands and give him an extension with more guarantee money. That's the way things work now-a-days. Hire Drew, complain and get an extension.
by Kirkendall on Feb 2, 2008 3:17 PM EST 0 recs







